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Trigon
meh. doesn't seem like a dunk when dribbling is optional. Kinda like Duke (new)
basketball.
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varinacavs
You lost me when you said " NBA"........sorry. ** (new)
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  +1 ** (new) -- SoCalWahoo 02/14/2016 12:12AM

        
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SoCalWahoo
+1 ** (new)
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ThatDadgumBiscuit
In light of the Peyton Manning news, I hope people take a second thought (new)
and get some perspective about making such a big deal about Cam Newton acting frustrated after the biggest game of his life.
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Charleston Cav
What about his 1st baby photo w/ the MVP/NFC offensive player of the (new)
year trophy's surrounding him?
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  Not sure what one has to with the other ** (new) -- HooRemembers 02/13/2016 10:40PM

        
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HooRemembers
Not sure what one has to with the other ** (new)
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  I'm OK with that...... (new) -- WahooFla 02/13/2016 10:14PM

        
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WahooFla
I'm OK with that...... (new)
but if I were a teammate, it would be very hard to forget or forgive the backpedalling from a loose ball on the ground. I don't believe I could.
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  Joining the witch hunt? ** (new) -- JEMHOO 02/13/2016 9:40PM

        
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JEMHOO
Joining the witch hunt? ** (new)
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  The Newton apologists should just clam up. (new) -- Chuck Taylor 02/13/2016 8:41PM

        
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Chuck Taylor
The Newton apologists should just clam up. (new)
The self proclaimed superman had his comeuppance of galactic proportions on his sport's biggest stage.
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  Non sequitur ** (new) -- wadhoo 02/13/2016 4:24PM

        
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wadhoo
Non sequitur ** (new)
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SchmHoo
One thing has absolutely zero to do with the other. ** (new)
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  That never stopped anyone ** (new) -- November2nd 1995 02/13/2016 10:28PM

        
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November2nd 1995
That never stopped anyone ** (new)
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  Well theres one, now if we can just get to every one ** (new) -- November2nd 1995 02/13/2016 11:11PM

        
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November2nd 1995
Well theres one, now if we can just get to every one ** (new)
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SchmHoo
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in my restraint. :o) ** (new)
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hooshouse
Even Jason Whitlock thinks Shaun King lacks credibilty ** (new)
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laxguy8947
Agreed completely, but it's not exactly breaking news (new)
and so I expect those who want to grumble about Cam being grumpy won't be changing their minds
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  Manning has always been a Shill (new) -- Zhoo 02/13/2016 3:38PM

        
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Zhoo
Manning has always been a Shill (new)
And I could go on with a soap box post rant about how we view someone like him versus others.....
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  Honestly, it's the first I've ever heard of it ** (new) -- ThatDadgumBiscuit 02/13/2016 3:36PM

        
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ThatDadgumBiscuit
Honestly, it's the first I've ever heard of it ** (new)
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Mikeysurf
It's been out there. USA Today wrote about in '03... (new)
Christine Brennan did an extensive story, but it didn't go anywhere. My take, there's not too much there to move forward on.
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  What news? ** (new) -- bballbill 02/13/2016 3:19PM

        
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bballbill
What news? ** (new)
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  Dear God... it's like an awful erotic story (new) -- ThatDadgumBiscuit 02/13/2016 3:29PM

        
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ThatDadgumBiscuit
Dear God... it's like an awful erotic story (new)
(from article):

“At 6 feet, 5 inches, his feet dangled off the edge of the table. Manning allegedly then proceeded to scoot down the training table while Naughright examined his foot. At that point, she said, he forcefully maneuvered his naked testicles and rectum directly on her face with his penis on top of her head. Shocked, disgusted, and offended, Naughright pushed Manning away, removing her head out from under him.”
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Charleston Cav
When did he steal the laptop and get kicked out of school? ** (new)
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  Wasn't that in college? ** (new) -- November2nd 1995 02/13/2016 9:12PM

        
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November2nd 1995
Wasn't that in college? ** (new)
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  Here is the story/ (new) -- Hoogle.com 02/13/2016 8:05PM

        
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Hoogle.com
Here is the story/ (new)
Rather one-sided. One wonders why the woman never reported him for sexual assault, and why she and Peyton signed a confidentiality agreement. It has been thirteen years and nothing has happened. This author writes like Sabrina Erdely.
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hitnrun
I'm no manning fan but it's pathetic that anytime a black person (new)
is called out for something, there has to be a racial comeback...first if she is examining his foot...how do his balls n but those get on her face without her noticing he is trying yo do this..
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DiyYHoo
So just how did he perform this Houdini move without  (new)
removing his leg from his body? Wouldn't his foot move as he pulled off this amazing feat?
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Hoosshady
I would like to know how he managed to do what is alleged in this manner (new)
the way it is described makes no sense at all to me. Further, other accounts I have read paint a completely different picture. While there is little doubt something happened I find this version of events a bit implausible.

Run through what is described in your head. Imagine you are on atraining table with your feet hanging over the edge. Now imagine that someone is examining your leg/foot and what that entails. Now figure out how you can scoot into a position to do what is described here. I just do not see it.

No where have I seen where he touches her with his hands to hold her in place. Was she laying down? If he is on a table then how did he get his shorts off and past her with her examining his leg?

I have had my feet examined on multiple occasions. At no time do I recall the doc being in a position where I could maneuver myself to put my junk on his face in the manner describe.

Remember she said everything was on her face. The description is as if he sat on her. I just do not get it.

Again, i have no doubt that manning did something inappropriate. But I doubt the lawyer's for the trainer painted an accurate picture.
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  Re: What news? (new) -- ThatDadgumBiscuit 02/13/2016 3:23PM

        
    

        
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fphoo
Yikes. Would be nice to have this further  (new)
researched and reported on.
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ThatDadgumBiscuit
Only other thing I see so far is a SI report with similar info ** (new)
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Zhoo
Maybe his next commercial will feature this line..... (new)
Sexual assault you will not go away.......instead of chicken parm you taste so good.......
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Jimi W
"That foul-mouthed doc with real nice tits" works... ** (new)
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  "I didn't tea baGG the doc"** ** (new) -- TpkeHoo 02/13/2016 3:46PM

        
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TpkeHoo
"I didn't tea baGG the doc"** ** (new)

[Post edited by TpkeHoo at 02/13/2016 3:57PM]
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  "Hope I never dropp the soapppp" ** (new) -- ThatDadgumBiscuit 02/13/2016 3:36PM

        
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ThatDadgumBiscuit
"Hope I never dropp the soapppp" ** (new)
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  Wow! ** (new) -- bballbill 02/13/2016 3:33PM

        
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bballbill
Wow! ** (new)
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  Didnt do much with the Eagles. ** (new) -- Ronald Mexico 02/13/2016 2:39PM

        
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Ronald Mexico
Didnt do much with the Eagles. ** (new)
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  Very good recruiter/ average coach ** (new) -- FirstFan 02/13/2016 1:48PM

        
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FirstFan
Very good recruiter/ average coach ** (new)
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  Decent recruiter, below average coach ** (new) -- hitnrun 02/13/2016 1:48PM

        
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hitnrun
Decent recruiter, below average coach ** (new)
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  I was trying to be nice ⬆️🤓 ** (new) -- FirstFan 02/13/2016 1:51PM

        
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FirstFan
I was trying to be nice ⬆️🤓 ** (new)
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rphoos1
I hope he coaches the secondary cause y'all will get smoked. ** (new)
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hoora
Neither. London did most of the 757 recruiting himself. (new)
West was credited with very few recruits during his entire tenure at UVa. As a coach, well, Tenuta didn't think very much of him - wouldn't even let him coach the safeties and Tenuta was very critical of the cornerbacks' techniques when he got to UVa.
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LTHoo
Re: Our 2ndary never seemed that good in critical situations, especially  (new)
in the final minutes of a game. I will never understand why the secondary allowed WRs to get wide open behind them long situations but it happened a lot.
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PWillis52
Clear step down from Gray. As a recruiter jury is still out (new)
because London is such a force in recruiting West's area.
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confuzionrains
Great coach, amazing recruiter. Would be a steal for VT ** (new)
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  Yes - will cry a bit each day (new) -- Hoo82 02/13/2016 9:41PM

        
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Hoo82
Yes - will cry a bit each day (new)
well, except when we get to play against him instead of try to figure out why he coaches DBs the technique that he uses.
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NYCHOOO
This gray things should warrant ncaa look. Guy is flat out dishonest. I don (new)
Feel bad for kids really because if you sign with vpi it should be caveat emptor. However it is another black eye for college football
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Glenvar Hokie
He informed the kids he was working with. One stayed with Minn. (new)
This stuff happens every year. Not sure why this is an issue?
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  Are the kids that signed complaining? I haven't seen any (new) -- LondonCallingHoo 02/13/2016 12:29PM

        
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LondonCallingHoo
Are the kids that signed complaining? I haven't seen any (new)
Reports, but if they are that's pretty bad.

If not why do we care? It's not like this is the first or the last time that this has happened.

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Orangebluewahoo
This is the standard political defense. Everybody is doing it, (new)
so it is acceptable for me to do it. The reality is that there only a relative few who would do this, but even if it were the majority, it is still not justifiable.
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Glenvar Hokie
He took another job? Finished his obligations to VT (where he played) (new)
and then took a job the state he is from and for more money.

Please stop....
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LondonCallingHoo
Actualky not what I said at all. My point was the recruits/signed kids (new)
are the ones affected, so it's their reaction that should matter.

Josh Sweet was the number one recruit in the country and committed early an enrolled in January. His recruiter/position coach left in mid January right after he enrolled. It didn't seem to bother Sweet one bit. UCLA had their defensive coordinator leave right after signing day a couple of years ago. It happens, doesn't make it right, but it' does happen. Kids play games with schools all the time. Just this year a kid was committed to FL for a while and signed with FSU and his recruiting coach told him not to decommit from FL so they wouldn't see it coming. Sadly it's a business.

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nfkhokie
See...heres a informative poster who has his facts except (new)
that it's Josh Sweat..not Sweet. Regardless...crap happens all the time with coaches. How many times has it happened in football OR basketball, that a kid committed and boom...the Head Coach bolted?? Lots...and it won't be the last.
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Blah
Are you comparing the actions of a teenager vs. adults ... (new)
who are paid thousands, if not millions, to educate, develop, nurture young minds?

If a coach wants to move, they are not penalized. If a kid wants to transfer, they have to sit out a year. Scholarships are year to year ... and can be stripped at the end of every year.

It's not the end of the world, but it's common decency to alert the other party of major changes before signing a contract ... especially when you are dealing with teenagers. Heck, some courts will rule a contract void if pertinent information were not disclosed.
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  I'm sure OXVT will investigate ** (new) -- CavmansUnibrow 02/13/2016 11:16AM

        
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CavmansUnibrow
I'm sure OXVT will investigate ** (new)
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TheAntiHokie
If parents & HS coaches made sure boys picked their school for the right  (new)
reason, this should not be an issue. Not bright to choose a college based upon who coaches a certain position on a football team. Some families don't have much sense I guess.
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LTHoo
Re: Do coaches like Bennett & O'Connor invalidate your point? IMO, there  (new)
is nothing wrong with a recruit or a family using the coach as a primary factor when selecting a college. I would further state that the coach impacts the individual to a much greater extent than the college itself since the coach will be the biggest role model during a 4-5 period. Does the coach genuinely care about the individual? Will the coach allow the player to earn a real degree? etc, etc.
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TheAntiHokie
No but McKay validates my point. Assistants are transient. ** (new)
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LTHoo
Re: No but McKay validates my point. Assistants are transient. (new)
McKay's departure was totally different from Gray's departure. It isn't a stretch to assume that Gray was actively involved in retaining recruits and getting their signature on the LOI while he was in the process of getting a new job. Plus, every UVa bball coach has a personal and professional relationship with Bennett since the team size is so small. In football, many players rarely speak to their HC so most of their contact with the staff is through their position coach.

I agree that assistants aren't as important as the HC. IMO, it wouldn't have been a big deal if the timing was different and wasn't handled so deceitfully. I bet several recruits were upset but they are smart enough to accept it and move on because they don't have much choice.
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Hoo Again
Highlights the differences in priorities of our coaches.  (new)
Daisy dupes recruits. Leaves team before bowl. What's next? I'm guessing he lets a pedophile back on the team.
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nfkhokie
What a awful post....bring something to the table at least... (new)
you got nothing here....
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CLC-UVA
I missed the issue here -- what happened with what coach? ** (new)
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  Me too. Who left? ** (new) -- HamptonHoo 02/13/2016 10:47AM

        
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HamptonHoo
Me too. Who left? ** (new)
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  Torian gray took a job at UF right after signing day ** (new) -- November2nd 1995 02/13/2016 10:51AM

        
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November2nd 1995
Torian gray took a job at UF right after signing day ** (new)
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LTHoo
Re: Fuente faced the classic moral dilemma.  (new)
Does he tell his recruits upfront that one of his best coaches is quitting, which may hurt his recruiting and his chances for winning? Or, should he be honest with his recruits knowing that they might go to another school? Fuente didn't do anything illegal but he certainly opted to hide the truth and then lied about it afterwards. Let's face it, many football coaches would have hid the truth from recruits although I suspect most coaches would have handled the aftermath much better. Fuente not only lied in an attempt to cover it up but his lies also made him look foolish. College football is all about winning and virtually any behavior is excusable, as long a the coach wins. When a coach loses, nothing can save them. Just ask Beamer and London!





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Hoozup
Re: Re: Fuente faced the classic moral dilemma.  (new)
With due respect to the poster, I don't see this as a moral dilemma. The coach knows that recruits often change their minds when a head, or even position coach leaves. If, as they all like to say, his first concern is for players, there is only one "right" choice, to inform them of the change.

Now, if he came out and said that he didn't notify recruits because his first concern is for the program, that would be honest, at least. He didn't say that, did he?
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MTHoo
What did he say to make it worse after it came out?.  (new)
I don't pay much attention to tek and didn't follow this.
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  LOL! ** (new) -- Glenvar Hokie 02/13/2016 3:24PM

        
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Glenvar Hokie
LOL! ** (new)
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Wahoos79
Bet your recruits who were screwed aren't LOL ** (new)
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Exhoolate
There should be a full disclosure clause in a letter of intent. If (new)
a coach is actively considering a new job with a different team, this should be made know to the recruit. For any coaching staff to pull a bait and switch like this is reprehensible.
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SixerHoo
Teams should be required to declare in writing a primary recruiter (new)
for each recruit. If the primary recruiter leaves within, say, 60 days after national signing day, LOIs for all his recruits should be void.

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  Schools will just adapt (new) -- Zhoo 02/13/2016 10:10AM

        
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Zhoo
Schools will just adapt (new)
And the move happens on day 61........isn't the same result as leaving the day after your LOI signing?
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Hoorva
I want to see the special teams game improve, would love to .. (new)
return a couple of kickoffs/punts
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jws
That, and just to improve overall field position. (new)
I think we will see improvement in all areas. Excited for our football team again!
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Terd OC Walt Bell. what a joke! (new) -- jackethoo 02/12/2016 6:26PM

        
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jackethoo
Terd OC Walt Bell. what a joke! (new)
Posted on Twitter feed


[Post edited by jackethoo at 02/12/2016 6:28PM]
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jonybuck33
They can't even keep the MD guys from going to Penn State ** (new)
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Keyserhoo
So, Richmond has been moved to King and Queen County. Who knew? ** (new)
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  Stop Terrapin irredentism now! ** (new) -- confuzionrains 02/13/2016 08:22AM

        
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confuzionrains
Stop Terrapin irredentism now! ** (new)
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HOO86
Looks like Walt has trouble finding Indiana. ** (new)
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  It's about the Junior Day Event this weekend (new) -- Randyterp 02/12/2016 7:27PM

        
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Randyterp
It's about the Junior Day Event this weekend (new)
MD is having a DMV only Junior Day this weekend and that's what the Tweet is referring to.
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Jimi W
Sounds like a pretty exclusive event, I wonder what their recruits outside  (new)
of that area think of it.
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Randyterp
Re: Sounds like a pretty exclusive event, I wonder what their recruits outside  (new)
Doing a regular Junior Event in a few weeks with National Recruits and other locals that could not attend this one. Everybody will get their Steak Dinner and Sales Pitch. Then on to other Junior days at many other schools the next few weeks. It's the season.
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NokeHoo1
The V in DMV doesn't include Richmond down to Va Beach. ** (new)
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Randyterp
Re: The V in DMV doesn't include Richmond down to Va Beach. (new)
Maybe not but I believe MD invited MD. DC and VA Junior recruits up for the weekend Event and that's why Bell Tweeted.
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czhoo
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Bronco being interviewed from his Office (new) -- jdubforwahoowa 02/12/2016 6:10PM

        
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jdubforwahoowa
Bronco being interviewed from his Office (new)
On Best Seat in The House with Jay James on WINA
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  Wasn't it great! ** (new) -- OldeWahoo 02/12/2016 6:17PM

        
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OldeWahoo
Wasn't it great! ** (new)
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Copernic
WINA shouldn't be allowed to call it a podcast unless its on iTunes  (new)
Or podcaster or any number of podcast platforms.
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  Looked around, couldn't find it ** (new) -- November2nd 1995 02/13/2016 08:11AM

        
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November2nd 1995
Looked around, couldn't find it ** (new)
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  Here it is.  (new) -- hoodeyo 02/13/2016 4:04PM

        
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hoodeyo
Here it is.  (new)
Link: link           (0)     (0)   
 
  
Football meets Soapbox  (new) -- Narrows Hoo 02/12/2016 3:42PM

        
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Narrows Hoo
Football meets Soapbox  (new)
Haven't seen anything on the board about it today but that fact that the Govneror of Louisiana is threatening to close LSU (and I would assume all state run colleges and universities) should be an eye opener to those folks.

Appearently the state is to be around 2 billion in the red next fiscal year.

Glad Virginia hasn't got to that point.
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  The Washington Monument ploy ** (new) -- Clark2 02/13/2016 11:17AM

        
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Clark2
The Washington Monument ploy ** (new)
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Hoos Operator
That's pretty funny. Any attempt to shutdown LSU during football season  (new)
would not bode well for the health and safety of that governor. I hope he has his affairs in order.
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hitnrun
What he meant to say is " this is a scare tactic" so we can get support (new)
for raising taxes instead of cutting the bs fat that governments blow money on...
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HowieT3
Time for us to pull out the "let's go private" plans again. ** (new)

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  This is all on Bobby Jindal who cut and cut (new) -- Hawaii Hal 02/12/2016 5:20PM

        
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Hawaii Hal
This is all on Bobby Jindal who cut and cut (new)
Revenues to show he was a far right nutcase when he ran for president. Falling oil revenues didn't help either. The issue isn't money for football. Most of that is privately raised. It's the fact if they shut down the university, the players will get incompletes for this semester and won't be eligible next fall.
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QBSacker
Careful. Your gushing love for Jindal is showing. (new)
Did you send him a Valentine's Day Card?
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Sabres
Typical Left-wing tactics. Gimmie more money ot the Police, Teachers... (new)
and in LSU's case "The football pogram" gets it. There are probably 100 government agencies that could be cut or scaled back, and the people would cheer. So, you have to threaten to go after the few things people actually care about to extort your tax increases
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WahooDaddyRN
Nah. I'm sure there's some grandstanding there, but (new)
Ole Bobby boy destroyed everything in a quest to run for President.

Why the folks on each side think the pendulum has to be all the way right or left for things to work is beyond me. No middle ground, apparently.

Smart to lump football in with it, though. That'll get folks moving.
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Zhoo
If they shut the school down the players would have stilll attended (new)
the same number of classes as they would have had they not shut the school down......

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  Think Bronco can grab any transfers? ** (new) -- hoodeyo 02/12/2016 6:05PM

        
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hoodeyo
Think Bronco can grab any transfers? ** (new)
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Zhoo
Can't think of any that could cut it at uva (new)
Academics wise
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  Bring back Huey P.!!!!! ** (new) -- Charleston Cav 02/12/2016 6:04PM

        
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Charleston Cav
Bring back Huey P.!!!!! ** (new)
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1994Wahoo
That's usually around the time they're indicted. ** (new)
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Wembley
LOL! Shutting down the one program the actually makes you money! (new)
This might be the dumbest governor ever.
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  The athletic department did just wrote a  (new) -- mwolve 02/13/2016 3:48PM

        
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mwolve
The athletic department did just wrote a  (new)
multimillion dollar check to the academic side
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Chris Horne
Signing Day 2016: #HoosRising Energizes Cavalier Nation (EDGE) (new)
This EDGE feature is my overall look at UVA Football's class of 2016, including top headlines, stars and sleepers, and more...
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Beetle
My hope is the talent in this class is better than the ranking (new)
It is obviously out of balance with team needs, but we can recover if our coaches focus on the deficiencies and I am comfortable they will.

If we get a strong QB, or a couple of players who seem go "have it" this class will prove to be underrated.
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A little more on Hill (new) -- venomousviper 02/12/2016 11:07AM

        
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A little more on Hill (new)
I have to admit I know nothing about the business school or Darden at UVA. I dropped out of BYU 50 years ago without a degree, went into real estate, did very well and retired at a very young age.

It sounds like there is a business school and also Darden , which are significantly different. Is that accurate? I know he did very well with the company out of Utah the last two years while he was rehabilitating himself. He made very good money and was even taken on many of the business trips. He has an open invitation to join them in a position of leadership. When ever he wants it. He might think it would make a difference to have an additional degree in business and may be applying to business school rather than Darden if they are truly different.

I'm not sure anyone knows what his extended education plans are but he will be well-positioned when ever he decides to go the business direction. Would it be easier for him to be accepted to the business school? That might be all he is currently waiting for.

I know it doesn't mean much, but I still believe it is more likely that he comes to UVA than anything else a the present time. Acceptance and offers will make a difference to him.
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Hoos Operator
What's his GPA? The average for UVA undergrads admitted to McIntire (new)
is over 3.7. I don't even know if it's possible to transfer directly from an outside undergrad program.
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  McIntire has a 1 year MS in Commerce (new) -- UVAawg 02/12/2016 10:03PM

        
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McIntire has a 1 year MS in Commerce (new)
Darden offers the 2 year MBA.
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RobHoo?
I don't believe McIntyre has an MBA program - Darden does. And seems I (new)
have created a motto for Darden as well.
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ProntoPup
I have degrees from both (Darden MBA and McIntire B.S. Commerce) many years (new)
ago, but remain somewhat familiar with each. Both are among the best business schools in the country/world in their category and have much to offer. My experience with Darden would be similar to the post suggesting this would be difficult, although in some respects TH would appears to be a good candidate. However, Darden is primarily a case method school, requiring considerable hours of group preparation and discussion, as well as papers and projects. The time requirements would be formidable if not impossible for a football player, especially a QB. At the same time, I would ask any more recent Darden students or alums to chime in on this.

While McIntire has a one year Masters program, I am not familiar with that although the one year aspect would fit in nicely with TH. Perhaps some McIntire students or alums could speak to this program.

The two schools are for the most part completely separate. If either felt TH could handle the work, the education benefits would be exceptional.
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If TH wants to play one final year for Bronco, the academics will work (new)
Themselves out. I'm sure both sides would be willing to bend somewhat to accommodate a former Heisman hopeful with one last audition for The League.
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HooWa
Guranteed, Darden will not risk its reputation even for a Heisman Hopeful.. (new)
Both Darden and D-1 level football require 100% dedication for success. Former Dean Bob Bruner spent years improving its standing in the very competitive MBA ratings. Current Dean Scott Beardsley will not throw it away to accommodate a football player.
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  Of course they would (new) -- Quaker 02/12/2016 9:28PM

        
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Quaker
Of course they would (new)
Just like a Senator's or Governor's son or the scion of a wealthy family. All rules have exceptions.

This is one.

And if you think no one gets a break in Darden admissions ... I'm just shaking my head.

Yeah, he has to have some qualifications; an ability to do the work .. But if he does he'll get preferential treatment.

It's the way of the world.

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  Seriously doubt they would make an exception (new) -- Birddog 02/12/2016 10:29PM

        
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Seriously doubt they would make an exception (new)
for a student athlete to transfer in .... I have a friend who is really involved with the Darden School , he said that there is no way this could or would happen . No way a prof would permit the guy to miss a study group or class because of practice ,film session ,or a game ...
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  Have a hard time seeing Darden bending . (new) -- Birddog 02/12/2016 2:21PM

        
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Have a hard time seeing Darden bending . (new)
McIntire I could see ...
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Hoodafan
Besides, isn't Darden or MBA program a 2 yr commitment, otherwise why (new)
bother if you're not going to finish? Assuming he's considering going to the NFL at all after next year. True at Mich., Stanford, etc. too. At least with the McIntire 5th yr. Masters, he might have a shot at getting a degree from it.
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JoeHoo
He's no NFL lock. He'll be 26 years old coming off of multiple surgeries... (new)
That's pretty high risk for an NFL GM.
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  Correct .... ** (new) -- Birddog 02/12/2016 2:56PM

        
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Correct .... ** (new)
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Darden is the business school, for MBAs. McIntire is the undergraduate (new)
commerce school but does offer a few Master's programs (accounting, commerce, IT) some of which are 1-year programs.

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   NewsLink is updated (new) -- Kris  02/12/2016 09:40AM

        
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Kris
NewsLink is updated (new)
Link: NewsLink           (0)     (0)   
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Will Johns start next year? I think 50/50 ** (new) -- Wahooswast00 02/12/2016 09:28AM

        
    
  Considering everything, Johns did well (new) -- NVHoo 02/13/2016 09:24AM

        
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NVHoo
Considering everything, Johns did well (new)
He had an ineffective position coach, terrible play calling, mediocre OL, mediocre run game, slow receivers who could not separate. He had a 61% completion rate for 234 yards a game. Biggest issue is 17 INTs vs 20 Tds but a lot of the INTs were tipped balls that should have been caught.
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November2nd 1995
Maybe or maybe not. Either way Johns is still doing good work (new)
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IB4DemHoos
Ill play this game, let me stair into the crystal ball (new)
Taysom hill will not come to UVA John's will start and will run before being injured at that point Brewer will take over but will only play subpar... when John's returns he will be injured again quickly maybe within the same game of his return then enter Nick Johns to finish out the year and continue as starter while Cross and Sonny take a well-earned redshirt season
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Seems as though Nick Johns most resembles the type of QB Bronco described  (new)
of the ones we currently have at UVa. Perfect scenario is Hill comes this year and Matt Johns stays to back him up. Nick Johns gets reps, learns the offense and then steps in the following season,,but all that could be completely wrong
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Beetle
I think Bronco will run Matt Johns at QB.... (new)
Last year, we played smart with Johns rarely running him because we were very thin at QB. Brewer was new to the system and Nick Johns was new to the Hoos.

I may be in a camp by myself, but I think Bronco will pick Matt Johns based on his experience, will and effort. And I think he will not hesitate to run Johns. Johns is not an elusive runner, but he throws well on the run, is creative and pretty fast. The question is how well he can adjust to the new offense.

I don't think Bronco worries like London about trying to keep Matt Johns in the pocket and not running him for fear of injury. Bronco has a history of bringing new players up to speed quickly.

I will give little thought to the possibility of Hill coming until it is announced as definite. Currently it is just speculation.
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  If Hill comes, not a chance. (new) -- SoCalWahoo 02/12/2016 11:42AM

        
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SoCalWahoo
If Hill comes, not a chance. (new)
If Hill does not come, I personally would rather see a younger QB win the job over Johns. I just was not impressed one bit with Johns last year and I would rather see a QB that will be here next year get the playing time to develop and get experience in the system. There are going to be growing pains with the new system and we might as well go with a QB that will be here next year now instead of this season with Johns and next season with a new QB.
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If Hill comes, 0% chance, barring injury. If not, yes probably. ** (new)
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D.C.Scott
My hope is Hill comes and starts until hurt, then MJ takes over.... (new)
through the bowl game, and the backups compete to see who the starter will be the following year.

GO HOOS!!!
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If Hill comes here, that's exactly what you will have. Hill has 2+ years  (new)
as a starter in Mendenhall/Anae's offense whereas Johns has none. Consequently, Hill fits your desire for continuity as a starter much better than does Johns.
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  This. ** (new) -- hoodeyo 02/12/2016 3:20PM

        
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This. ** (new)
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OstHoo
Not with the team having to learn the new offense. (new)
Of course, both Johns and Hill have to deal with that learnign curve - Hill knows the coaches and the plays, but not the players. Johns knows the players and what "worked" last year, but nothing else.
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D.C.Scott
Doesn't sound like direction bec not earned V-Sabres logo. 2017 or beyond.. (new)
It sounds liike the staff would like to have Hill (who knows what he is doing) be the starter with Johns being the backup until Hill gets hurt, and hopefully Johns leads the team to victory in the bowl game.

Meanwhile, in the background, ALL backup QBs are being groomed to be the replacement, but they are expected to earn the 3rd string and 4th string position, which will be HUGH next spring. At that time the Hoos may be looking for a 'practice experienced' QB to be a 2yr starter, and then start the succession pipeline. I would anticipate that several backup QBs may then transfer when they realize that they are not going to be the starter. That's OK because they were beaten out by a better player, and they will be ready to be a starter for another school.

GO HOOS!!!
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Look to the thread below...20% w Taysom here 100% without ** (new)
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  More like 1% and 100%, IMO. (new) -- halleHOOjah 02/12/2016 10:11AM

        
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halleHOOjah
More like 1% and 100%, IMO. (new)
If Hill comes, he starts.
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  Will MJ transfer? ** (new) -- Zhoo 02/12/2016 10:13AM

        
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Will MJ transfer? ** (new)
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Charleston Cav
He'll finally get good coaching, no reason to think he wont improve (new)
on a 20/17 season. + he will run the ball more.
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Didn't he run a spread offense in high school? ** (new)
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Interesting on Taysom Hill (new) -- venomousviper 02/12/2016 04:27AM

        
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venomousviper
Interesting on Taysom Hill (new)
Here is an article that MAYBE answers the TH question about having graduated from BYU. I'm really not sure how to interpret the part that states "Having graduated........" Honestly don't know if this is as of right now or what WOULD be the situation in a couple months.
Interesting article anyway. I personally think TH is trying for acceptance into Business school at UVA.

Not sure if I posted link correctly, so I entered it twice. Feel free to enter it again if I screwed up.
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HooWa
Parsing the article, "Having graduated, he could..." speaks of... (new)
his graduating in the future and making a decision at that time.
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DiyYHoo
BYU Cougar board ( per insider ) States that Taysom Hill (new)
will make his decision known within two weeks, this was posted nearly a week ago . This Cougar fanatic says that he is a friend of a friend of the family and this is where he got the info. It may or may not be true but I'm inclined to believe that something is in the works due to his slow activity on social networks since being offered by Virginia.Seems to me that even the BYU nation is very curious as to why Taysom has been on the low about his future plans.
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  Know nothing about any players academics (new) -- belocki 02/12/2016 12:07PM

        
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belocki
Know nothing about any players academics (new)
but darden is not putting a kid in there for what is basically one semester. the commerce program is the only option.

unless hill is A, qualified and B, already made a commitment to do the two full years.

i think NCAA just release that 85%+ of the grad transfers never get their grad degree.
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  When does Darden make decisions? ** (new) -- HooDatLG 02/12/2016 08:10AM

        
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When does Darden make decisions? ** (new)
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Fitz-Hoo
More likely McIntire Masters program than Darden ** (new)
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That's what I'm thinking, too. MS in Accounting, maybe? ** (new)
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neworleanshoo
Does anyone really believe darden could be possible for a starting QB? (new)
from what I know and have heard about the demands - i can't see it.

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HOOWIZ
Not if it's like it was when I was there! ** (new)
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Yosemite Sam
We've had football players graduate from the e-school (new)
Cannot get anymore demanding than that.
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Mr. Mahoo
I barely had enough time to watch Ralph play a time or two. No way to carry (new)
the demanding work load and play a sport. The rigid Darden profs I had would not have made allowances for an athlete's schedule.
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3xHoo
Re: the amount of work at Darden is overhyped... (new)
I did both Darden and Law. The work at Darden was more "volume" (readings, etc.), but easier than Law. Some (but not all) Darden classes feel like a business-case version of Dr Phil or Opra: sitting around and talking about somebody's else problems. It's not particularly difficult to contribute to these discussions. By contrast, Law is substantively more challenging. Also, the Law students are generally smarter than the Darden students (book-wise) and, therefore, the academic side of it is more challenging.
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  If you think he can do (new) -- HoosWillWin 02/12/2016 11:18AM

        
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HoosWillWin
If you think he can do (new)
Darden and football, you are completely wrong. No way.
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  No way, no how. ** (new) -- WahooKnows 02/12/2016 10:31AM

        
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WahooKnows
No way, no how. ** (new)
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  Nope, but McIntire would work. ** (new) -- HoosWillWin 02/12/2016 10:09AM

        
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HoosWillWin
Nope, but McIntire would work. ** (new)
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Fair Weather Hoo
Based on how much time those guys spend at bars? Yes. Definitely possible. (new)
Having worked on the corner, I can tell you that the Darden crowd is very much a work hard, play hard crowd. They know how to burn it on both ends, and do it well.

It is a demanding work load, but it can be managed. Especially by someone who won't be distracted by alcohol and parties...like say a Mormon QB?
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Blah
Post 1st year Darden / UVA Law, it's just a party. ** (new)
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  Two questions (new) -- Zhoo 02/12/2016 1:27PM

        
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Zhoo
Two questions (new)
1. Who has the better softball team?
2. Which one handles their liquor/beer better?
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hoomonger
UVa Law is pretty much party every year. Just not during exams. (new)
1L would be a LOT easier than 1st year Darden.
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Hoo Again
0% chance he goes to Darden. Having gone there myself... (new)
There is a tremendous amount of emphasis placed on class attendance and participation in the first year, along with study groups in the evening Sunday - Thursday nights. No chance.
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  The one part he of it he couldnt handle (new) -- Zhoo 02/12/2016 09:35AM

        
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Zhoo
The one part he of it he couldnt handle (new)
is the workload that requires group work and projects.......the other stuff he could handle
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Jimi W
Detmer's quote could've been an accident, but he said something really  (new)
interesting. He said, "...wherever he GOES" instead of "...whatever he decides to do." There's a huge difference between those two statements. Could've just been a slip-up.
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  It wasn't a slip up (new) -- Hoo23 02/12/2016 07:04AM

        
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Hoo23
It wasn't a slip up (new)
Detmer telling Hill to make a decision by Spring practice is very telling as well.
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Trigon
Not the exact same but Detmer should be prepared to get TOB'd by a few if.. (new)
Hill turns out to be Russell Wilson II.

(but Detmer needs to be able to plan and prep just as TOB did ... plus TOB's position was that he would lose his Tanner Magnum (Mike Glennon) if not guaranteed as starter, i.e. if WIlson could have returned in the summer in the event baseball did not work out ... as it eventually didn't - curse that curveball)
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Hoo23
Yes, saw that yesterday...very interesting (new)
That nobody seems to be able to confirm one way or the other. It doesn't help that he's not very active on Twitter either. Thanks!
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VT new look offense - RTD article link (new) -- Zeehoo 02/11/2016 9:09PM

        
    

        
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Hootr
What was the point? They ran 79 plays at Memphis and 72 at VT in '15-  (new)
That's hurry-up????? The Hokies weren't a hurry up team under Loefler. 2015 was the first time Memphis went over 72, so what's the point of the article?
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DiyYHoo
Nothing at all, after I read that article I was left thinking the (new)
same thing.......all that I could come up with is Blah bablah bablah blah blah....lol
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And I thought he'd stick with our old dynamic offense. ** (new)
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Hoos might as well give up now! VT is too good! (NOT!) ** (new)

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Sounds live VT is going to win the national championship. ** (new)
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  They'll need a trophy case. ** (new) -- hooshouse 02/12/2016 09:46AM

        
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They'll need a trophy case. ** (new)
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hoodeyo
They've got good receivers and a back, but QB is a question mark. (new)
Hopefully Evans is a bust.

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Has Chip West landed anywhere? ** (new) -- son of hoo 02/11/2016 5:29PM

        
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Has Chip West landed anywhere? ** (new)
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tylerhokie
I'd put a few bucks on VT...Probably in the next few weeks (new)
we'll know...
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hoora
I hope so. He wasn't nearly the recruiter he was made out to be and he  (new)
definitely was NOT a good db coach. Tenuta basically took that job over.
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Chuck Taylor
The degree of the cult of personality here sure didn't seem to match......  (new)
the performance of the individual coaches and certainly not the staff as a whole. If some of these coaches were so good why would they even be part of a crappy Virginia football program? Most of them were 3rd tier coaches at best and those that got jobs after leaving here went to 3rd tier jobs.......such as at Maryland.
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  This ** (new) -- Hooplehead 02/12/2016 11:29AM

        
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This ** (new)
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  Son of Hoo asked about West, not Beatty ;-) ** (new) -- North Cavolina 02/11/2016 6:13PM

        
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North Cavolina
Son of Hoo asked about West, not Beatty ;-) ** (new)

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Chris Horne
Chancellor Recruiting Notes: Top DE Matos Nears Decision (EDGE) (new)
This EDGE recruiting update provides the latest on top junior defensive end Yetur Matos as well as three others UVA is eyeing at Chancellor High...
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  This staff putting in some work (new) -- Aquarian81 02/11/2016 5:24PM

        
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Aquarian81
This staff putting in some work (new)
They are not afraid to take on the quote on quote Power schools and have offered a bunch of 4* and several 5*'s and that's just to start. If this is how they start and Bronco says they won't be caught up until the summer ...

Really hope Matos commits. I know London did a lot of work on him and the other guy who committed to VT. Would be nice if he committed. I'll be interested to see what he's listed as either OLB or one of the down 3.
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Hoos don't take a back seat to anyone. Why would we? ** (new)
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Chris Long Podcast with Jeff White (new) -- UVA001 02/11/2016 12:19PM

        
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Chris Long Podcast with Jeff White (new)
Chris Long spoke to UVA's Jeff White today for a podcast that covered a lot of ground. Great listen:
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November2nd 1995
Thanks for the link, some good stuff in there. Nice 434/804 jab ** (new)

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Wonder what he meant by "rumor that Heath Miller is coming back to town." ** (new)
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  He's coming back very soon ** (new) -- Hoo27 02/11/2016 3:29PM

        
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He's coming back very soon ** (new)
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Probably. But that would be dope if he were TE coach. ** (new)
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  He's got a place out near Foxfield ** (new) -- Fuzzy Dunlop 02/11/2016 2:49PM

        
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He's got a place out near Foxfield ** (new)
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Taysom Hill and minor bowl games (new) -- venomousviper 02/11/2016 09:02AM

        
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venomousviper
Taysom Hill and minor bowl games (new)
In a thread below, one of the posters questioned why Taysom would want to come to Virginia and only be able to play in a minor bowl game. I don't think anyone understands the difficulty BYU has in being invited to any decent bowl game. As an independent, they do not have league affiliations with any of the top bowls. The only way they have a chance to play in a really good bowl is to go undefeated or have one loss. this year, they played the sixth team selected from the PAC 12.

With a new coaching staff, and possibly a new offense , which will need to be tailored to a non-running back like Tanner Mangum, how many games do you think they will win with the following schedule:


at Arizona
At Utah
UCLA
at West Virginia
at Michigan State
Mississippi State
at Boise
at Cincinnati

If Taysom selects a team to play for only based on bowl possibilities, it would be 99% likelihood he would not pick BYU.
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  Venomous Viper is the man ** (new) -- el dorado Pedro 02/11/2016 6:38PM

        
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el dorado Pedro
Venomous Viper is the man ** (new)
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  For what it's worth. . .  (new) -- Houston Hoo 02/11/2016 2:04PM

        
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Houston Hoo
For what it's worth. . .  (new)
Hill is still listed as a student in the BYU online directory available to faculty and current students. My students who graduated in December 2015 are no longer listed.

Real football fans here in Provo seem to be pretty much unanimous that it would be in Taysom's personal best interest and in BYU's interest for him to transfer if he does want to play college ball next year. That's a big "if" in most local folks' minds, though -- just spitballing, it seems like about 1/3 think he should quit football altogether (injuries and lack of obvious NFL position), about 1/3 think he should take his shot at the NFL now, and about 1/3 think he should finish out his college eligibility and then see what happens.

There would definitely be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth if he followed Bronco to Charlottesville, although I think the uproar would be far less now than if he'd announced a transfer in December. There is a subset of BYU fans (Not VV or walthansen, etc.) who would definitely see it as a betrayal if he left. Most of them are twelve years old. The better-informed BYU fans seem to recognize that Mangum is the QB of the future, and that he represents a unique luxury for an incoming staff--a relatively proven commodity they can build around for three full years of football. I'm not sure what Taysom returning would give the Cougars except a major retooling effort at the end of next season with only two years of Mangum after that. (Honestly, as much as Ty Detmer has said publicly he wants Taysom to return, I wouldn't be surprised if Sitake and the new staff breathe a little sigh of relief if Taysom does transfer--far too many people around here would demand that the Cougs play Taysom over Mangum, and I'm not sure that's the right move.)

Without any inside information whatsoever, I wouldn't be surprised if Hill decided to hang it up and get on with his life.

One other note: While I'm sure U.Va. would bend over backward to work something out, it might be pretty challenging for Taysom to come in as a Darden student, given the way that particular program functions. The first semester of Virginia's MBA program is pretty intense in ways that would make it very difficult for someone to succeed simultaneously in both the classroom and on the field. Tiki and Ronde pulled it off at the undergrad level at McIntire, but my B-school friends were essentially incommunicado during their first year at Darden. Too many group project/case study type assignments.

Of course, it is the 21st century, so maybe it's all done on Skype or something now. . .
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North Cavolina
Everyone had to take 24 hours first semester with no electives back when I  (new)
was there. Second semester dropped to 21 hours, but still no electives.

Study groups met five nights a week, too.
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  I don't know the $$$ (new) -- venomousviper 02/11/2016 9:50PM

        
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venomousviper
I don't know the $$$ (new)
TH worked for a Financial advisement company that does a lot of different things. They even took TH on out of State meetings with perspective and current clients. He EASILY could have made the 100K required by Darden. I believe TH has applied for acceptance at multiple business schools and this could be one reason for the delay in picking a school. TH also has an open offer to join the financial company he interned with during the off season ANY time in the future. He was that good for them.
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Blah
It's not about money. It's not about success or failure. (new)
It's about experience. In the past, there was about 13-14 elite programs that every top employer would give legitimate consideration.

The revenue number is just something I threw out because it's the type of applicants he'll be competing against. Darden employs the case method. It's not for people without experience.

Back in the day, every bulge bracket made it a point to recruit and hire at McIntire/Darden. I'm not quite sure how it is nowadays.

But from my experience, top MBA programs such as Stanford, Haas, Anderson, Kellogg, Booth, Ross, Fuqua, Darden, Tuck, Wharton, Columbia, Stern, Harvard, and M.I.T. will rarely accept a student without ample experience.

That being said, UVA would be a good place for Taysom if he really wants to get into the financial industry. I know some of the bigger money managers in Salt Lake City. Good guys / slower moving assets / they run a tight ship. But UVA is different. Some of the biggest / most aggressive hedge fund managers in the world are from UVA. For example, UNC / UVA are the genesis of the Tiger Cubs. It's cut throat competitive. It's not easy to get one's masters and play D1 sports. He'll have to find a program at UVA that is flexible. That being said, if you have a good decade ... you can retire or do whatever you want.

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KCHoo
BYU makes a lot more than that off its FB team (new)
I can't imagine anyone could swing darden and starting QB though


[Post edited by KCHoo at 02/11/2016 3:34PM]
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Blah
If he was a Navy Seal, Darden would care ... but not as a QB. (new)
I'd argue playing college QB is a full time job, but the school won't consider it.
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  Not a good analogy. ** (new) -- MarineHoo 02/11/2016 7:47PM

        
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MarineHoo
Not a good analogy. ** (new)
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  Sorry, I didn't mean it as an analogy. (new) -- Blah 02/12/2016 01:11AM

        
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Blah
Sorry, I didn't mean it as an analogy. (new)
It's more that Darden would look at a Navy Seal / military service as a full time job. They will not look at college athletics the same way. I randomly chose Navy Seal because the top MBA programs love the leadership/teamwork training they receive.
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  I agree, but only because (new) -- Houston Hoo 02/11/2016 3:18PM

        
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Houston Hoo
I agree, but only because (new)
The existence of the McIntire Masters in Commerce program allows them to.

I'm less certain that Darden would "stand on principle" in the absence of such a program, unless TH's undergrad credentials were poor (it's my understanding he's a very strong student). Color me cynical, but as much effort as Darden puts into protecting its reputation, admitting Hill as a one-off would be pretty darned attractive if he couldn't do McIntire. Both his time as BYU's starting QB and his injuries could be spun pretty effectively in terms of what he would bring to the class -- leadership of a high-profile, high-standards organization and significant experience in dealing with equally high-profile setbacks. Just the sort of person Darden wants, with practical leadership experience that the vast majority of their applicants can't match with 2-4 years of lower-level business experience (even at top-tier organizations).

All that said, I still think it would be pretty darned tough to manage Darden coursework as a major contibutor football player.

HH
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Blah
Darden even considers two years of work experience too light. (new)
This school is even more case method oriented than the original (Harvard). It requires experience. In its early years, the school made exceptions. Not anymore. While Taysom's football experience will help, it won't impress Darden. Football can't be your core experience.

Furthermore, they are pretty strict when it comes to missing 3 days of class as a first year. You can get around study groups ... but you can't miss class. Your grade depends upon it.

Darden wouldn't admit Taysom Hill. It's no slight on Taysom. It's just how the school operates. And it has a reputation of being overwhelmingly rigid.
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  I can't imagine it would be Darden. (new) -- Stimp 02/11/2016 2:34PM

        
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Stimp
I can't imagine it would be Darden. (new)
I'd guess McIntire's one-year master's program.
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  Had forgotten about that program. . .  (new) -- Houston Hoo 02/11/2016 3:05PM

        
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Houston Hoo
Had forgotten about that program. . .  (new)
I tend to remember only the Masters in Accounting they offer. . .
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MTHoo
I think it is a better program than Darden.  (new)
Different focus and product but it is the one of the two I would choose.
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  Thank you for the interesting post, HH ** (new) -- cavtastic 02/11/2016 2:11PM

        
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Thank you for the interesting post, HH ** (new)
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  Re: Taysom Hill and minor bowl games (new) -- walthanssen 02/11/2016 1:12PM

        
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Re: Taysom Hill and minor bowl games (new)
He is probably training for the NFL Combine 23-29 this month because there is no other reason to stall his decision. UVa is his best bet because he already knows perfectly Coach Anae's offense
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  I'm pretty sure that is not what is going on... ** (new) -- venomousviper 02/11/2016 9:39PM

        
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I'm pretty sure that is not what is going on... ** (new)
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  Re: Taysom Hill and minor bowl games (new) -- utehoo 02/11/2016 1:02PM

        
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utehoo
Re: Taysom Hill and minor bowl games (new)
Taysom is nuts if he stays at BYU. I think even most BYU fans know that. BYU is almost certainly going to go with Tanner Mangum as their quarterback. Their schedule is brutal and it is highly questionable as to whether or not they will even reach bowl eligibility. Taysom will be graduated so he will basically be staying to play football, and he won't even be the starter. As far as bowls go, BYU is locked into a bowl prior to the season and due to their schedule next year, there is no way they are going New Year's Six or to the playoff. Any bowl UVA plays in would be better than what BYU is going to be doing.

I've been shocked he hasn't announced he is transferring. It doesn't make sense for him to stay at BYU. He has a great relationship with Bronco (I have inside information on that). Darden is a great business school, which is apparently what he wants to study. If he stays healthy, he likely will get a shot in the NFL if he wants to do that, but it's not going to happen if he's on the bench.

He is a good enough athlete that he would be a game changer for us next year -- if he stays healthy.

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  Re: Re: Taysom Hill and minor bowl games (new) -- walthanssen 02/11/2016 1:18PM

        
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Re: Re: Taysom Hill and minor bowl games (new)
Again he probably is either still rehabbing or preparing for the NFL Combine the 23-29 this month. As far as his relationship with Coach, check out The locker room after they beat Nebraska and various other videos where and he says there isn't any other player that he's ever coached who he has greater respect for than Taysom Plus he knows coach Anae's offense perfectly
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Hillhoo
So, anyone answer, this sem. started Jan. 29 and Session I of summer school (new)
begins May 16. The spring game is on April 23. Is there anyway he can enroll and participate in spring practice?
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WahooWade
Spring ball could be of little benefit to him.  (new)
He has complete familiarity with the system... which the team will spend the spring drilling.

He'll do just fine coming this summer for an M.S. degree at McIntire.
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  What about the LB from Tx, Huntsman? (new) -- dek 02/11/2016 11:32AM

        
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What about the LB from Tx, Huntsman? (new)
Early on there was some talk about him from a coach's comment or tweet.
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  Re: What about the LB from Tx, Huntsman? (new) -- walthanssen 02/11/2016 1:22PM

        
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Re: What about the LB from Tx, Huntsman? (new)
No news out here in Provo so it's too late for him to be able to participate to spring practice...probably not coming
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Hoo23
Hey Venom since you have more BYU insight... (new)
are you able to confirm whether or not Taysom is actually enrolled or if he graduated already? Everything I've seen indicates he was on track to graduate in December, but there is no confirmation that it happened. However, I came across a Twitter message from a BYU student indicating that Taysom was listed on a roster of students signed up for a winter session course (which ends in March or April). Any thoughts or insight there? Thanks!
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  Is Taysom married? (new) -- rd280z 02/11/2016 09:16AM

        
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rd280z
Is Taysom married? (new)
or is that his girlfriend I have seen pictures of him with?

She may have a very big bearing on where he goes also.
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  Re: Is Taysom married? (new) -- walthanssen 02/11/2016 1:28PM

        
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walthanssen
Re: Is Taysom married? (new)
Married to Emily Nixon, David Nixon's (former BYU & NFL standout LB she 100% supports him on whatever he wants to do
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  Yes he is married (new) -- venomousviper 02/11/2016 09:25AM

        
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Yes he is married (new)
I didn't mean to infer that a Bowl game would be his reason to leave BYU. Just one of the reasons.
1. Bowl game
2. Top business school.
3. Familiar HC that calls Taysom the strongest, fastest and smartest......
4. QB coach he truly loves.
5. Offense that he runs perfect if he stays upright.
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  Re: Yes he is married (new) -- walthanssen 02/11/2016 1:29PM

        
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walthanssen
Re: Yes he is married (new)
Spot on!
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AcousticHoo
Where would he go to win big and still miss spring practice? (new)
Considering all of the parameters from my perspective it's either UVA or BYU.
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TpkeHoo
Does Harbaugh think he can get him up to speed in August? ** (new)
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  Oops, mean't as a reply to chuck-fu ** (new) -- AcousticHoo 02/11/2016 11:16AM

        
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Oops, mean't as a reply to chuck-fu ** (new)
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chuck-fu
Maybe you're right- I have no idea what other opportunities are out there. (new)
I assume that a Heisman caliber QB would have a place at a handful of contenders out there- even with the time limitations he'd be facing. But I definitely don't know all of the rosters of all of the teams out there, so maybe this is a misguided opinion.
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walthanssen
Re: Maybe you're right- I have no idea what other opportunities are out there. (new)
You are correct but it all comes down to BYU & UVa
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TpkeHoo
Harbaugh has been a fan since he recruited him for Stanford ** (new)
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  All good points, plus if he stays at BYU (new) -- MizzouHoo 02/11/2016 09:43AM

        
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All good points, plus if he stays at BYU (new)
he will be on the sidelines during spring practice while a new offensive system is installed that is built around Mangum. Would Detmer spend the time to simultaneously install a scheme that would fit Hill's option style when he's not available to run it? Starting at UVa with a familiar offense and coaches seems more likely than dislodging Mangum at BYU. And as pointed out, BYU will have a very hard time getting to any bowl with that schedule.
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Charleston Cav
The better question is how many grandkids does he have:) ** (new)
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chuck-fu
Fair point, but i think the point is really around transferring. (new)
If you are going to go through the trouble of transferring, and you essentially have your pick of schools, do you try to find that one school where you are the missing piece for a special season, or do you pick on other criteria.

Coming here next year would be 'other criteria'.
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MarineHoo
J Edgar Hoover can answer that...when you rob a bank where do you... (new)
...go?...you go somewhere or to someone that is familiar (family)...this staff is family to him...relax and let it play out.
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hoora
Maybe he just wants to spend his last year with coaches he knows. I don't  (new)
know why that is so hard to understand
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venomousviper
there is continual chatter about Michigan and Stanford (new)
Jim Harbaugh is the one that recruited him at Stanford while he was there before his mission. Michigan used a transfer quarterback last year, and would probably not be opposed to having Hill transfer there. I think it would be more difficult for him to be named the starter at Michigan then at UVA. Just my opinion.
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walthanssen
Re: there is continual chatter about Michigan and Stanford (new)
I believe that the only reason for his delay in making a decision and it's just a hunch is that he may be attending the NFL Combine Feb 23-29 to see what he can do and won't miss any schools' spring practice except BYU's
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utehoo
Re: there is continual chatter about Michigan and Stanford (new)
Michigan and Stanford would both be logical options for Hill. They both lost starters and both have good business schools. I still think UVA is the best option for him. He will start at UVA for sure, not so sure with those other places.
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  Do we know that the decision is binary? (new) -- mwolve 02/11/2016 11:47AM

        
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mwolve
Do we know that the decision is binary? (new)
Do we know that it is down to staying at BYU or following Coach Mendenhall to UVa. or is there a possibility that Hill is open to other options?
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  He could potentially not play at all. ** (new) -- hoodeyo 02/11/2016 12:21PM

        
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He could potentially not play at all. ** (new)
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chuck-fu
I don't think it's hard to understand at all.  (new)
That would classify as 'other criteria'. I think everyone gets it. If he only wants to win big his last year, he probably won't come here (as the odds on that are lower here than at other places).

If, instead, he wants all of the things that viper listed above, then we should have a very, very good chance of getting him.
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  Wow! That is a difficult schedule. ** (new) -- halleHOOjah 02/11/2016 09:13AM

        
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Wow! That is a difficult schedule. ** (new)
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  WDTNDCF is the new BTTTS ** (new) -- HOOSNICE 02/11/2016 4:56PM

        
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WDTNDCF is the new BTTTS ** (new)
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TpkeHoo
You guys are making me feel old. Dont know Daisy Fuentes? ** (new)
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  Seriously. Ugh, kids today. ** (new) -- Hoosenberg 02/12/2016 1:04PM

        
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Seriously. Ugh, kids today. ** (new)
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  MTV Spring Break, with Daisy Fuentes! (new) -- andLeftyToo 02/11/2016 9:54PM

        
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MTV Spring Break, with Daisy Fuentes! (new)

[Post edited by andLeftyToo at 02/11/2016 10:00PM]
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Ronald Mexico
You must be old because she is also old. Real old. ** (new)
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  Well, he is just a pup after all. ** (new) -- Hoodafan 02/11/2016 12:07PM

        
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Well, he is just a pup after all. ** (new)
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  I mean, dude's name is Fuente and not Fuentes (new) -- The_Superhoo 02/11/2016 11:42AM

        
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The_Superhoo
I mean, dude's name is Fuente and not Fuentes (new)
Also kinda stinks of "lets call him a girl's name to make fun of him"
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I am sure this Dustin Fuentes chap has a good-natured sense of humor... (new)
and those Va Tech Hoakees are used to ignoring grammar and spelling errors.
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ThatDadgumBiscuit
The typo was the whole point.. similar to Jolie/Hokie autocorrect (new)
Why not bring a more pleasant aesthetic to these words?
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You might have a point with your last point if there were ANY other Fuentes (new)
... of note. So, we're left with Daisy.

Oh well. :o)

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  Re: Where did the nickname  (new) -- Stimp 02/11/2016 08:28AM

        
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Re: Where did the nickname  (new)

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GO TIKI
HOLY MOLY! Tech wishes she was their coach! ** (new)
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  Good xoxo's there. ** (new) -- ChiTownHoo 02/11/2016 08:46AM

        
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ChiTownHoo
Good xoxo's there. ** (new)
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Our AD might try a little price competition to lure folks back to Scott  (new)
That might be beneath our dignity, however.
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  Has anyone noticed the Duke billboards in RVA? (new) -- Fuzzy Dunlop 02/11/2016 06:50AM

        
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Has anyone noticed the Duke billboards in RVA? (new)
They had a football one up in the fall and a women's hoops one up now. Guess they're trying to get people to come down 85? Seems like a random market to make a push in.
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HamptonHoo
Re: get people to come down 85? Seems odd to me. Unless you're already a (new)
Puke fan, no one else in Hampton Roads (now being known as Coastal Virginia) is going to drive to Durham. Unless maybe you're a Hoo or Tek fan football fan looking for a win there.

They might be sowing some recruiting seeds though.

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Re: Has anyone noticed the Duke billboards in RVA? (new)
Duke must think the state of Virginia is their playground. Advertisements for Duke football and basketball are in Chesapeake and in Hampton...are they that desperate for people to attend their games?
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Hey that's a good idea. We should get some billboards in Raleigh, Charlotte (new)
and Greensboro (and maybe Durham for good measure) for UVa Basketball, if for nothing else other than to piss them off and claim our territory. Depending on how 2016 goes maybe we can convert them to Football Advertisements in the future as well
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Dissembling Daisy II ... (link) (new) -- Trigon 02/10/2016 11:23PM

        
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Dissembling Daisy II ... (link) (new)
A week ago we had Part I ... now we have Part II:

National Signing Day was Wednesday, February 3. That evening, SI broke the news after the ink dried on commitments that Bud's right hand man (whose pay Daisy had cut), Torrian Gray was headed to the U of Florida.

VT issued a press release Thursday confirming as much.

Meanwhile on Richmond radio that morning, Daisy was asked if he had spoken with departing Coach Gray.

Daisy replied, " uhhh, yeah. I appreciate you asking about it. We, uhh, ya know obviously we're still kind of working through this whole deal. So, I don't ...uhh, no decisions have been made or anything like that. We're just kinda still in the process of trying to figure everything out."

hmm ...

Now, Daisy comes a little cleaner in a Daily Press interview with David Teel:

"... Fuente said that a few days before signing day Gray, a Floridian, informed him of the potential Gators opportunity. Florida coach Jim McElwain called Fuente the night of signing day to confirm the hiring, Fuente said.

“We really didn’t know how serious it was before signing day,” Fuente said when I asked if prospects had been informed of Gray’s possible departure before signing letters of intent. “To say it moved quickly, I think, is an understatement. It got serious quickly. We didn’t really talk to anybody about it because we didn’t know all that much about it. I didn’t feel like we were being disingenuous. … So we didn’t really address it because we really didn’t know there was anything to address.”

The Hokies announced Gray’s departure Thursday, the day after NSD."
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Wahoos79
An intelligent recruit should punt VPI from consideration (new)
They have NO credibility.
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  How long does Foster stick around now? (new) -- Bourbon Bowl 02/11/2016 11:11AM

        
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Bourbon Bowl
How long does Foster stick around now? (new)
I only casually follow happenings from down in Cow Town, but this was plainly an awkward arranged marriage from the beginning.

First Foster gets passed over for the HC job. (And if he couldn't get the head job at Vah Tech where he has decades of tenure and is revered as a saint, he's not getting a P5 head job anywhere).

Next Foster is going to stay on, creating a dynamic where the new regime and the old regime - new culture and old culture - will collide. From what I know of Foster, "low key" and "deferential" aren't among the top superlatives used to describe his personality.

Just to add moonshine to the goat rodeo, Fuente brings his DC along as a defensive coach.

Now Foster's right hand man gets marginalized with a pay drop, has the sense to see the scribbling on the barn wall, and jets first chance he gets. It also shows that either Foster himself commands only so much loyalty, or that Foster sees the scribbling on the barn wall too such that Gray left with his blessing.

I'd be surprised if Foster is there longer than a season or two. While his defensive don't instill the fear that they used to, he can still land a P5 job somewhere.
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Foster and Fuente apparently get along quite well... (new)
As for Gray, he'd been there a decade and his head coach retired. Given a chance for a pay raise at a better program in his home state it makes since to go now doesn't it?

As a side note, "...add moonshine to the goat rodeo" is my new favorite phrase. Thank you.
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Bourbon Bowl
Whether Gray leaving made sense or not depends on perspective. (new)
At the very least, Foster couldn't have been happy that "his guy" had to take a pay cut; either personally b/c they are friends, or professionally because it shows limits to Foster's power in the new regime. I don't know if the Hokies tried to counter UF's offer to try to keep him (unlikely given the aforementioned pay cut), but I can imagine Foster would have wanted that attempt to have happened.

The relationship may work out, but to me it seemed contrived from the beginning. You're telling your new guy he's the man but he can't choose his own coaches. You're telling your longtime DC (and for many a season, Beamer's saving grace) that he's not good enough for the job his new boss has, and that he doesn't have enough pull to keep his favorite holdover around. You're going to have egos, a young HC trying to consolidate power, culture clashes, all of it. It's a risky proposition to say the least.
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I was interested that he had to call a recruit to say VT was pulling his  (new)
offer, on Fuente's orders. You'll remember that Nick Grant from Courtland "reopened" his recruiting because Foster yanked his teammate's offer and he assumed the same would happen to him.

Can't imagine Bud was happy to be told that his commit had been deprioritized and that he got to break the news.

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Wants another shot at Tulsa in The Weedeater. ** (new)
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  Foster (new) -- Stockleybridge 02/11/2016 11:43AM

        
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Foster (new)
I don't come over here to talk smack or anything, but here's the issue I have with the "Foster is/will be disgruntled" theory.

Whatever autonomy or outspokenness Beamer accepted from Foster is surely not typical in this sport. If he left us, do you think some head coach in the SEC would have put up with anything BUT deference and immediately getting with the program? I'm sure he realized the unique and extremely long relationship with CFB was going to end someday. If he really and truly believed the new guy would be the exact same as Beamer I'm not sure any problems that develop will be Fuente's fault, tbh.

Plus, as you say...he had options as a P5 defensive coordinator if they really offended him. TAMU was in town just a year ago...

Grey likely left with his blessing regardless. Florida is his home state, UF is a better program, and it's in the conference where football is the undisputed king. I don't like the timing with the recruits at all, but it's unlikely we were keeping him anyway.
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TAMU is not a good job right now. I just think it will (new)
be difficult to merge two cultures.
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  Re: Foster (new) -- LTHoo 02/11/2016 1:37PM

        
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Re: Foster (new)
So, you believe that the person who was responsible for building VT's football program will be a "yes" man for a coach with few accomplishments and 3 whopping years of experience as HC?

Do you believe that a new coach whose career depends on winning will refuse to get involved with the defense if it continues to perform at it's current level?

Which coach will get the loyalty of the defensive players on the team today?

The Foster - Fuente relationship may work out but the odds are against it. If Bud produces a top defense then Fuente won't get involved. If the defense falters, Fuente won't allow it to cost him his job and he will asked his DC buddy to help. At that point, Bud is gone.
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  As it should be (new) -- Stockleybridge 02/11/2016 3:47PM

        
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As it should be (new)
I certainly don't expect Fuente to put his career on the line because Bud Foster is incredibly popular with our fanbase. It's absolutely Fuente's job to get involved and even fire Bud Foster if the defense ends up hamstringing our program.

Now the whole team fell off after 2011, defense included, but it's just not PC to suggest that it had more with Frank Beamer's advancing age and the uncertainty of his retirement affecting recruiting and other things. I personally don't believe Foster forgot what he did to become a nationally respected defensive coordinator. He's 18 months out of outcoaching Urban Meyer and Tom Herman for 4 quarters. It's not like we beat that Ohio State title team on the road with raw talent or size.

But yes, the marriage of staffs is an added wrinkle and nothing is guaranteed. If Foster sticks around for a few years and moves on, that's life in college football. The Beamer family/loyalty mentality is not coming back. Other than possibly Bob Stoops I'm not sure the sport is really going to produce lifer coaches anymore, to be perfectly honest.
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Agreed- good take on how it may play out (new)
Fuente has said he's very hands on which is a complete 180 from Beamer. I'd say Foster is gone within 2 years
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  5 years...he'll be 60 and want to retire... ** (new) -- tylerhokie 02/11/2016 8:42PM

        
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5 years...he'll be 60 and want to retire... ** (new)
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Blah
I'm sure Foster will try to make it work, but it won't be easy. (new)
I understand Gray could have left for Florida due to:

* Better program
* Home state
* An opportunity to spread his wings & position himself for a DC spot

But be honest ... Foster can't be happy "his guy" got a pay cut. It was a strange gesture by Fuente. And remember, Foster got passed over for Fuente. Human nature says there will be some animosity. There is enough support in Blacksburg for Foster to flex his muscles if he feels alienated.

I think Whit made a mistake. He should have allowed Fuente to pick his coaches. The Gray fiasco already blew up in their face before Spring practice. That's not good.
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I hope he sticks around. Miscommunication / distrust within London's ... (new)
coaching staff ... we all witnessed it.
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  Yup. Match made in sheeptown ** (new) -- HOOSNICE 02/11/2016 4:58PM

        
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Yup. Match made in sheeptown ** (new)
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Blah
Fuente is lying. Everyone knows what happened. He just needs to ... (new)
shut up and move on. I don't doubt that the Gray's departure happened quickly, but Fuente knew before signing day that Gray wasn't coming back. It was unethical and it will be used against him regardless.

[Post edited by Blah at 02/11/2016 03:15AM]
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Woody
So, how does anyone know that Fuente knew... (new)
that Gray was definitely going to UF before NSD? You sound very sure of yourself. What are your sources?
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Blah
Justin Fuente said it! At the very least, McElwain called Fuente ... (new)
the day before signing day to tell him that Gray was joining Florida. It's not that hard to call each recruit Gray had a hand in and tell them he is leaving. It's the right thing to do.

And the FACT:

* Fuente cut his pay
* Gray told Fuente that Florida was a definite possibility days before the signing day

Don't let the facts gets in the way. What more evidence do you need? How could Fuente be confused? Is Fuente calling Gray and McElwain liars?

[Post edited by Blah at 02/11/2016 1:27PM]
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tylerhokie
He called ALL of the recruits that were under his position. (new)
and told them he was leaving or...thinking about leaving....
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Blah
Just link a SOURCE and educate us. It's not that hard. (new)
But when your own coach said he didn't contact anyone, who the hell am I suppose to believe? You? Are you saying your own coach is lying?

I don't go around saying I know much about VT athletics. But David Teel just wrote an article with Fuente's quotes saying otherwise.
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  Correction on your post (new) -- Jman 02/11/2016 1:43PM

        
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Jman
Correction on your post (new)
McElwain actually called Fuente the night of signing day, not the day before.
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Blah
LOL. Hokies are now blaming McElwain for calling Fuente ... (new)
the night before NSD. Give me a break. It's not too hard to dial the phone. Did you expect Fuente to call his recruits during school hours?

Seriously, stop spinning the story. Fuente failed. Own up to it and move on.
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  Was quoting the story imbedded above... (new) -- Woody 02/11/2016 3:56PM

        
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Woody
Was quoting the story imbedded above... (new)
...that stated 'the night of signing day', that being after LOI's were received.
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Blah
I'm not saying what Fuente did is the end of the world. But ... (new)
he made a mistake. Own up to it or just shut up. He sounds dumb using confusion as an excuse. He knew ... took a calculated risk ... and got called out. He needs to take the L and move on.
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  You are the worst poster on here by far dude.. (new) -- tylerhokie 02/11/2016 8:53PM

        
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tylerhokie
You are the worst poster on here by far dude.. (new)
if only you had actual facts of what really happens at VT instead of just sticking to your school maybe...just maybe...you wouldn't come off as such a douche bag, but apparently that's too hard. Everything you spew is VT related....it's like you have this unquenchable thirst for all things VT and do your best to feel superior to your beloved University....just let all things VT go man...you'll feel much better...
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Blah
It's very simple. If you feel I'm mistaken, just link a source ... (new)
or anything that says otherwise. I'm open to being educated. But when David Teel's article with your coach's quotes disputes your claim ... am I supposed to go off blind faith because you know everything Hokie sports related?

I didn't put your program into this position. Your coach did. I didn't dig for anti VT propaganda. It was from one article who everybody read ... David Teel. How do you want me to interpret it? Enlighten me.
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  I think thats a compliment ** (new) -- November2nd 1995 02/11/2016 9:27PM

        
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November2nd 1995
I think thats a compliment ** (new)
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  Gray: (new) -- LandFish 02/11/2016 07:42AM

        
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LandFish
Gray: (new)
let me count the ways...but for the moment I've gotta laugh.

They hosed some kids badly..really any DB's. .Are there conditions for breaking commitments? I'd assume no...That's why people need to be open and honest..anybody believing that in this instance..I'd like to do business with. lol

[Post edited by LandFish at 02/11/2016 07:44AM]
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  Hahah...I know you guys don't like facts... (new) -- HokieFan14 02/11/2016 10:00AM

        
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HokieFan14
Hahah...I know you guys don't like facts... (new)
but multiple recruits were informed of this possibility before signing with VT.

By all means though, Bronco up and carry on.......
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  Are you here simply to defend the VPI lies?  (new) -- Wahoos79 02/11/2016 9:25PM

        
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Wahoos79
Are you here simply to defend the VPI lies?  (new)
No smart recruit should consider VPI after this mess.
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Bourbon Bowl
If that's true, then your HC is a bald-faced liar. So which is it? (new)
Fuente is the liar, or you?
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HOOSNICE
If you say so it must be true. Apparently this helpful 'fact' isn't worth  (new)
the staff repeating to clear the air. Hokie Chokie
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  Is this your own personal spin or what? (new) -- LandFish 02/11/2016 3:26PM

        
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LandFish
Is this your own personal spin or what? (new)
Exactly what or whom are you citing?

What your saying is a complete contradiction of what's being reported.

How ironic you want to speak of facts getting in the way...damn...too funny!
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Capital City Hoo
And you aren't offering any here. Please return to the VPI board now ** (new)
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  This is why you're not hokie fan 1. ** (new) -- SixerHoo 02/11/2016 10:34AM

        
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This is why you're not hokie fan 1. ** (new)
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Blah
Are you THAT STUPID? Your coach admitted he didn't contact anyone!!! (new)
Don't let the facts get in the way.

From David Teel:

That stay was brief. Fuente said that a few days before signing day Gray, a Floridian, informed him of the potential Gators opportunity. Florida coach Jim McElwain called Fuente the night of signing day to confirm the hiring, Fuente said.

“We really didn’t know how serious it was before signing day,” Fuente said when I asked if prospects had been informed of Gray’s possible departure before signing letters of intent. “To say it moved quickly, I think, is an understatement. It got serious quickly. We didn’t really talk to anybody about it because we didn’t know all that much about it. I didn’t feel like we were being disingenuous. … So we didn’t really address it because we really didn’t know there was anything to address.”
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Zhoo
Then why doesnt the HC say in all these interviews? ** (new)
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North Cavolina
I like the fact that disingenuous is in Fuente's vocabulary. ** (new)

[Post edited by North Cavolina at 02/11/2016 10:05AM]
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Probably a word that he's had directed at him before. ** (new)
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  You can't make this hokie stuff up. ** (new) -- HOOSNICE 02/11/2016 5:04PM

        
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HOOSNICE
You can't make this hokie stuff up. ** (new)
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AcousticHoo
A charge of "reckless discharge of a weapon" sounds like there is  (new)
much more to the story than simply cleaning a weapon. Last time I checked it's difficult to run a cleaning device thru a barrel with a cartridge in the chamber. Or maybe it was a lever action side loading rifle and he put sharp nosed bullets in the magazine. I had never thought about this until reading that a sharp blow could cause one cartridge to set off another in the tube. ;)
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  Didn't Johnny Unitas do this also? ** (new) -- LoveThemHoos 02/11/2016 09:49AM

        
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LoveThemHoos
Didn't Johnny Unitas do this also? ** (new)
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ThatDadgumBiscuit
Not sure but I clearly remember Plaxico Burress doing this ** (new)
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  Time flies- Morgan is 30? Spent 7 years in the League? ** (new) -- Capital City Hoo 02/11/2016 08:27AM

        
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Capital City Hoo
Time flies- Morgan is 30? Spent 7 years in the League? ** (new)
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MarineHoo
Well he was a WR...he didn`t see the Safety...:-) ** (new)
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  Nicely played. ** (new) -- Slider 02/11/2016 05:48AM

        
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Slider
Nicely played. ** (new)
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  A real life Cheddar Bob ** (new) -- hitnrun 02/10/2016 11:05PM

        
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hitnrun
A real life Cheddar Bob ** (new)
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DiyYHoo
I've had weapons since I was seven and also six years military (new)
and if you follow the first lesson when handling a pistol or a rifle you are to clear the weapon of any ammo before you attempt any cleaning whatsoever. He must be a complete nincompoop. Usually when this type of injury happens its another story behind it rather than the one told to police. I say he is a liar.
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CharlestonSC
It's really really simple ... you treat every single weapon like it's  (new)
loaded every single time you touch it.
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  That is stupid and beyond belief. ** (new) -- Hillhoo 02/11/2016 04:48AM

        
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Hillhoo
That is stupid and beyond belief. ** (new)
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  I think you are right... smells funny ** (new) -- wadhoo 02/10/2016 9:57PM

        
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wadhoo
I think you are right... smells funny ** (new)
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  VPISore! ** (new) -- DiyYHoo 02/10/2016 9:54PM

        
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DiyYHoo
VPISore! ** (new)

[Post edited by DiyYHoo at 02/10/2016 11:52PM]
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DiyYHoo
A Stalker ..A Savage on D, now that sounds intimidating! ** (new)
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  Savage af ** (new) -- Fuzzy Dunlop 02/11/2016 06:51AM

        
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Fuzzy Dunlop
Savage af ** (new)
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  A legacy is always welcome ** (new) -- Wahoo Ron 02/10/2016 10:10PM

        
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Wahoo Ron
A legacy is always welcome ** (new)
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  Pops was a baaaaad man. ** (new) -- Trigon 02/10/2016 9:56PM

        
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Trigon
Pops was a baaaaad man. ** (new)
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HOOGATORB
Made play to beat JoPa at PSU.HadBlair Thomas coming out of backfield. (new)
Broke up game winner in end
zone.HOF play.JoPa was dumbfounded.Was there.
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  He really was. He could hit like a truck. ** (new) -- SaxonHoo 02/10/2016 11:18PM

        
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SaxonHoo
He really was. He could hit like a truck. ** (new)
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mottthehoople
Hit a truck? Hell w/ shoulder pads on, he'd kill a truck!! ** (new)
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Hoogle.com
Isn't Ray Roberts kid in high school? Last time I saw him, he was bigger  (new)
than Ray!
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MarineHoo
That would be Slade Roberts I think...named after Chris Slade. ** (new)
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Trigon
Hoodeyo's link indicates 6-2, 207, HS senior ** (new)

[Post edited by Trigon at 02/10/2016 10:17PM]
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  Link enclosed  (new) -- hoodeyo 02/10/2016 9:29PM

        
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hoodeyo
Link enclosed  (new)
Link: Daily Press article           (3)     (0)   

        
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D.C.Scott
Better stick with DB. Glad the class keeps increasing! :) ** (new)
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Blah
A kid can easily gain 25-30lbs good pounds in college. ** (new)
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  Yep. OLB is a possibility I should think. ** (new) -- Hoobedoobedoo 02/11/2016 09:34AM

        
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Yep. OLB is a possibility I should think. ** (new)
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I'm in Blacksburg on business.  (new) -- HogsAndHoos 02/10/2016 8:18PM

        
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HogsAndHoos
I'm in Blacksburg on business.  (new)
Noticed they have an El Bronco Restaurant. Think they will change the name?
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  An oxymoron... ** (new) -- ARKHOO 02/11/2016 08:33AM

        
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ARKHOO
An oxymoron... ** (new)
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DiyYHoo
Soon as Sargent Bronco breaks that chain it will be avoided (new)
Like the plague. So name change is coming or either it will go under for sure!
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North Cavolina
Were you thinking maybe something like The Daisy Cafe? ** (new)
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With all the running backs (new) -- Hoorva 02/10/2016 2:30PM

        
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Hoorva
With all the running backs (new)
Mizzel, Reid, Hamm, zaccheous, ext. would love to see some switched to play slot back or transformed into the next Danny admendola
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  I think there roles were perfect last year (new) -- Aquarian81 02/10/2016 6:26PM

        
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Aquarian81
I think there roles were perfect last year (new)
I think if Mizzell had received more touches he could have been a 1,000 yard back. That's not to say I don't think the rotation was good idea, but last year he was clearly the best and one of the best in the ACC.

As for Zaccheous I would like to see him stay in the slot, but I trust these coaches know what they're doing. Besides nothing is set in stone. Everything may change in the spring and again in the summer/fall.
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zeropointzero
Agree - I thought Fairchild didn't get enough credit .... (new)
... for his embrace and mostly effective execution of the RB passing game.
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  Would like to see Sharp pack on some weight (new) -- IB4DemHoos 02/10/2016 5:30PM

        
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Would like to see Sharp pack on some weight (new)
6'2" height but if he could get up to a 230 to 240 weight would be sweet n goal line situations... Like keith payne
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  I disagree (new) -- Aquarian81 02/10/2016 6:35PM

        
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I disagree (new)
I think if he adds between 10-15 pounds he could be a No.1 back. Watching his video last year I was more impressed with his than I was Z. Olamide. I really think he could be really good in a few years.
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  Double agree, I don't think height-weight (new) -- JKHooing 02/11/2016 07:57AM

        
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Double agree, I don't think height-weight (new)
has everything to do with being a power runner. I think it is more how the guy runs than his metrics that defines the power back. C. Peerman was like 210 pounds, T. Jones was like 205 and they were what I would call power backs. You don't have to be 230-250 to be considered a power back. If Sharp is that guy, great. But no need to put on weight just to get to a cetrain size.
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  Might not stay on offense ** (new) -- PWillis52 02/10/2016 6:24PM

        
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Might not stay on offense ** (new)
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ThatDadgumBiscuit
I'd like to see Mizzell slot receiving whenever Olamide is in the backfield (new)
and for Olamide to generally get touches more often than he did last year. That guy has homerun written all over him and college football is all about the big play.
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  I am absolutely in favor of this plan. (new) -- SchmHoo 02/10/2016 5:30PM

        
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I am absolutely in favor of this plan. (new)
I still remember when Mizzell was a recruit at least two recruiting writers mentioning that Mizzell would be the #1-ranked slot receiver in the class if it was an actual category.
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Mizzell was very effective on wheel routes last year. (new)
Was beating at will the LBs trying to cover him. Would he be covered by DBs if we put him in the slot?
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Caught 100 balls last year.How can you critize how he was used. ** (new)
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HowieT3
I'm not criticizing. he was one of the bright lights for us. (new)
All I'm saying is that if we moved him to the slot he might draw a DB who would do a better job of keeping up with him than an LB would. I'd rather that he line up in the backfield and come out on the wheel routes isolated on the LB again.
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  75, but I agree for the most part. ** (new) -- Stimp 02/10/2016 8:53PM

        
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75, but I agree for the most part. ** (new)
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OstHoo
Any news on Taysom Hill (apologies if discussed ad nauseum)? (new)
I haven't been on this board much lately. Thanks.
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Fdnman
Someone posted that Ty Detmer gave him to the beginning of Spring Ball (new)
to let him know if he is coming back to play at BYU, whenever that is.
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Ahooiam
You know, I really hope he comes here, but when you think about it, (new)
he has one more year at this level. Bronco is starting over and will take a few years to get us where we'd like to be. Does he really want to spend his last year helping a team to get to a minor bowl?

I'll say this. If he comes, it says an awful lot about his respect for Bronco.