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It’s a sign of the automobile age reaching maturity.

The fans and the old school drivers are part of a bygone era when we still didn’t know the limits of car and driver. Cars were changing in all sorts of ways all the time. It was exciting and gratuitous. Technology and society has changed. Look no further than Harley Davidson for more evidence of how societal trends can change the appeal of a once popular indulgence. Tv watching has change things too. No longer is a huge swath of the US watching the same race on a weekend. So many other choices.

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Posted: 02/10/2019 at 9:58PM

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Why is NASCAR a dying sport? -- jcvt11 02/10/2019 5:10PM

It like all sports is having attendence issues, all of them -- fordham 02/11/2019 4:15PM

COT and NASCAR's ineptitude -- HokieJay 02/11/2019 12:44PM

So would you say the buffer that masked the sport from dying -- jcvt11 02/11/2019 1:37PM

To a certain extent, yes. -- HokieJay 02/11/2019 8:28PM

My fault. I sold CC tickets to RIR. Been downhill ever since. ** -- 48zip 02/11/2019 12:01PM

Feb 18, 2001. Downhill from there. ** -- King Jaffe Joffer 02/11/2019 11:44AM

This x1,000... -- Diehard Hokie 02/11/2019 1:51PM

Yep. Imagine if Tiger died around that same time, what would -- King Jaffe Joffer 02/11/2019 2:15PM

Not enough plastic items printed with drivers faces available ** -- bigbadbird 02/11/2019 09:51AM

Here's a longer answer from me...a long time race fan -- HokieJamie 02/11/2019 12:48AM

Long time racing fan... -- TopGunHokie 02/11/2019 11:56AM

Yep. -- Chris Coleman

02/11/2019 11:37AM

And let me add this... -- Chris Coleman

02/11/2019 11:39AM

Living in Blacksburg now, I'm not too terribly far from Martinsville. -- jcvt11 02/11/2019 10:09AM

AKA: "The Paperclip" -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 12:33PM

Apart from Cassell or Lane, its my favorite place to watch an event. -- jcvt11 02/11/2019 1:42PM

I wondered how much the switch from smaller, regional tracks -- Tafkam Hokie 02/11/2019 10:15AM

Yep, no doubt. -- Chris Coleman

02/11/2019 11:46AM

They've definitely gone away from their roots. -- jcvt11 02/11/2019 10:32AM

What's amazing to me is, none of that is about the "sport" -- WestyHokie 02/11/2019 09:47AM

Ticket prices ** -- hokiewasp 02/10/2019 11:43PM

Seems like a huge waste of gas & boatloads of tires. ** -- Hoakie82 02/10/2019 11:35PM

Hmm, just heard on tv tonight it was the second most popular sport behind -- AZHokie59 02/10/2019 11:13PM

It’s a sign of the automobile age reaching maturity. -- HokieSignGuy 02/10/2019 9:58PM

Thanks, kinda what I was reaching for ... -- `lag 02/11/2019 09:24AM

Good point with the cell phone comparison. -- HokieSignGuy 02/11/2019 10:32AM

Got some deeper philosophical points on that...that is reality vs VR... -- `lag 02/11/2019 2:15PM

Strong post ** -- CPRVHokie 02/11/2019 07:50AM

Kinda wondering how many "car guys" are still around... -- `lag 02/10/2019 9:54PM

Now that I think about it, you don't see many cars as main "characters" in -- Tafkam Hokie 02/11/2019 10:27AM

Yeah, it's a hard thing to quantify I suppose but that would be one way to -- `lag 02/11/2019 3:05PM

Speaking of that, you should buy a "modern" English sports car as a 2nd... -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 08:41AM

I've tried. I would need to be about 4 inches shorter. As it is... -- `lag 02/11/2019 10:01AM

Guess I need to visit my local Mazda dealer -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 12:28PM

I dunno, I certainly don't fit and I *think* there's a consensus if you're -- `lag 02/11/2019 2:20PM

Appears Miata sales are still very strong, and the FRS/86/BRZ was... -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 08:39AM

The car scene is stronger now than it ever was in the past IMO -- typed by ben 02/11/2019 08:13AM

Gotta disagree a little. For "Car Fanatics" you are probably right. -- MilwaukeeHokie 02/11/2019 1:21PM

So what do you say to the people who say -- YardBird 02/11/2019 09:36AM

Probably true to an extent -- typed by ben 02/11/2019 10:01AM

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After driving 81 to NOVA and back so many times, I welcome the -- HokieSignGuy 02/11/2019 10:37AM

No, you're right, I'm just going down memory lane... -- `lag 02/11/2019 08:51AM

Ppl still "tune carbs", now it's fuel injection and it's done with a laptop -- typed by ben 02/11/2019 09:08AM

I still have a "carb tuning" device I purchased from the UK -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 12:30PM

Grate. I need to borrow an SRS scanner. ** -- 48zip 02/11/2019 08:27AM

Got you covered homie. Can also do MB-STAR (M-B) and EDIABAS (BMW) ** -- typed by ben 02/11/2019 09:02AM

Double post** -- typed by ben 02/11/2019 08:10AM

Oh, it's got cachet, baby It's got cachet up the ying yang!!! -- TexasGobbler 02/10/2019 11:03PM

Name 5 current drivers. -- hoosnowahokie 02/10/2019 9:16PM

Dick Trickle. Is he still racing? ** -- SDHokie 02/11/2019 2:00PM

Probably 4 or 5 times a night ** -- Newt 02/11/2019 5:03PM

The grate Jim Massey -- `lag 02/10/2019 10:34PM

Dale Sr., Dale Jr., Richard Petty... -- EDGEMAN 02/10/2019 9:45PM

The sponsors want cookie cutter drivers -- capitals1 02/10/2019 9:24PM

I never understood why it was ever popular -- WestyHokie 02/10/2019 8:56PM

Your last point is part of the issue now -- Vienna_Hokie 02/10/2019 9:21PM

Just like tennis. The equipment killed the sport. The cars got -- Femoyer Hokie 02/10/2019 8:46PM

I’m was a fan and it’s been ruined. -- two91hokies 02/11/2019 08:38AM

As a tennis player I agree, sports reach vanishing point the more the... -- `lag 02/10/2019 10:01PM

The great recession, 4K television and high ticket prices ** -- RoanokeHoo 02/10/2019 8:34PM

Drivers too corporate, no real competition, too many other options -- Vienna_Hokie 02/10/2019 8:10PM

Didn’t Stewart kill a guy? ** -- CPRVHokie 02/10/2019 8:13PM

Yes ** -- 81_Hokie 02/11/2019 07:15AM

No, a dipwad stepped in front of Stewart's car trying to be a tough guy -- Vienna_Hokie 02/10/2019 9:18PM

Was Stewart driving the car that hit the dead guy? And did Stewart take no -- CPRVHokie 02/10/2019 9:46PM

So if you hit a pedestrian it is your fault, when they step out in front of -- fordham 02/11/2019 4:13PM

Doesn’t make you a murderer but it makes you a killer. -- CPRVHokie 02/11/2019 4:30PM

I beg to differ. That was essentially a suicide. -- HokieJay 02/11/2019 12:50PM

Technically, he didn't hit a dead guy. ** -- 48zip 02/11/2019 08:08AM

No replacements for dale jr, jeff gordon or Tony stewart ** -- HokieJamie 02/10/2019 7:16PM

Decline happened with them at their prime. ** -- CPRVHokie 02/10/2019 7:22PM

...Ricky Rudd retired ** -- chumley 02/10/2019 7:15PM

They priced their core base out of the -- capitals1 02/10/2019 6:58PM

Sacrificed profitable, fancentric smaller markets for corporate, what they -- 133743Hokie 02/10/2019 8:34PM

I think that's it, although i'm NO NASCAR expert. They also spread out -> -- HOKIERIT 02/10/2019 7:57PM

Ultimately that will be good for the sport. Get back to the roots and focus -- CPRVHokie 02/10/2019 7:23PM

Yep .. it will be the 1st major sport to have a total reboot. -- capitals1 02/10/2019 7:54PM

If they go back to their base, those track WILL remain...the BIG tracks-> -- HOKIERIT 02/10/2019 7:59PM

It's Boring: too many races, too long, cars are the same except -- Josey Wales 02/10/2019 6:49PM

Agree about boring, but there are people to whom those are FIGHTING words ** -- HOKIERIT 02/10/2019 8:00PM

They moved away from their core customer base ** -- ValveHokie 02/10/2019 6:45PM

On the other hand what sport is thriving? ** -- UTPr0sim 02/10/2019 6:23PM

NFL bounces back this year. NBA is doing well. ** -- RoswellGAHokie 02/10/2019 7:48PM

NBA? There were more viewers for the AAF than NBA Saturday night. ** -- 48zip 02/11/2019 08:09AM

Need to view NBA as global sport. ** -- HWA 02/11/2019 10:22AM

No way game 1 of a new football league should beat an NBA prime time game ** -- 48zip 02/11/2019 10:43AM

Soccer -- CPRVHokie 02/10/2019 6:52PM

Not THE reason but a contributor: TV coverage got almost good enough -- Rinoki21 02/10/2019 6:17PM

It was always a niche sport. ** -- CPRVHokie 02/10/2019 5:46PM

Soccer?.......sorry man. 2 soccer slams in 1 day constitutes trolling. :>O ** -- HOKIERIT 02/10/2019 8:02PM

Well, the SC stands for "stock car"... -- ShortFatHokie 02/10/2019 5:15PM

Thats why I like sports car racing. Those cars are built from production -- EDGEMAN 02/10/2019 6:18PM

Did you go to the Rolex 24 at Daytona in Jan.? If you haven't been -- GO!! ** -- Josey Wales 02/11/2019 4:23PM

Here's a Cadillac -- 48zip 02/11/2019 08:13AM

Here's a Mercedes -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 08:48AM

Here's a Corvette -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 08:49AM

Here's a Porsche -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 08:50AM

Here are a couple of BMWs from Radford, VA -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 08:53AM

A Honda Civic -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 08:55AM

A Mazda MX-5 -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 08:57AM

A Mini Cooper -- EDGEMAN 02/11/2019 08:58AM

Best of all......it's a Cadillac! -- 48zip 02/11/2019 09:29AM

They're working that back in. -- jcvt11 02/10/2019 5:19PM

It’s a sign of the automobile age reaching maturity.

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