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AbsolutVT03

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Kind of apples to oranges depending on the disease. Ebola is much more


lethal than COVID but it also is not nearly as contagious. It's harder to spread and it usually kills the person so quickly that they're incapacitated before they have a chance to spread it very far.

Also note from that chart the CFR of the flu which is at .1%. We often see that number compared with the IFR of COVID which is still several times higher. The COVID CFR is over 4% in this country so that is the number that should be compared with the flu CFR at .1%.

And note that some diseases are listed as 100% fatal but then in the notes it says that it is preventable with a vaccine (rabies for example). Is rabies a bigger threat right now than COVID? I don't think anyone would argue that.

Finally, I find the HIV/AIDS section interesting. It notes:

"HIV is not lethal on its own but patients are usually killed by respiratory diseases, such as flu or pneumonia because of immunodeficiency caused by HIV virus. "

That's something to keep in mind every time someone wants to bring up the "died from COVID vs died with COVID" trope. Based on that logic no one really dies from HIV/AIDS. Many cancers are the same way. You don't necessarily die from the cancer. You die from an infection or chemo or organ failure. Point being COVID deaths aren't really any different from those. If someone has COPD but is managing it and not really sick or in the hospital and they get COVID and die then that's a COVID death. Sure having COPD made their chances of survival much lower but it was the virus that was the catalyst for the death.

Just some observations from that link.

(In response to this post by PhotoHokieNC)

Posted: 07/08/2020 at 6:16PM



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