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NIL is to college sports what the "dot com" bubble was to technology. -- Gobbler Guru 03/23/2022 1:23PM Or millions on NFT's that are to "right click save" digital artwork -- AirForceHokie77 03/23/2022 4:40PM Some idiot or some idiot company is wasting a crap load -- fordham 03/23/2022 11:27AM See the thing is that its not really throwing money away -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 5:10PM I expect there will be different NIL models used by different -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 12:40PM Nature abhors a vacuum. Eventually everything will be evened out to some -- IronBlood 03/23/2022 1:15PM Who determines the budgets? How does this yet-to-be-determined -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 1:30PM Gonna sum up this thread and other NIL talk/threads -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 11:01AM How much does a college education cost a non-scholarship student???? ** -- HOKIE-ED 03/24/2022 01:26AM A 💩 ton of student loans -- Brewing_Hokie 03/24/2022 03:08AM Interesting -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 12:05PM You eventually kill the Golden Goose by chasing most of the fans away. -- Hokdawg 03/23/2022 11:09AM At what point do these "investors" start demanding playing time for their -- Hokie Knight 03/23/2022 3:14PM Great points! ** -- AirForceHokie77 03/23/2022 4:49PM Exactly ** -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 1:47PM Exactly ** -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 1:47PM It's the adults fault for not providing payment for services provided... -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 11:15AM What percentage of Division I Football Players even have an NFL Career? -- Hokdawg 03/23/2022 11:36AM Not everyone is good enough for the NFL -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 1:14PM so it isn’t going to be capitalism- “I think there should be a salary cap, -- HtownHokie 03/24/2022 1:44PM Uh literally no. -- Brewing_Hokie 03/24/2022 1:58PM where do salary caps show up in the practice of actual capitalism? first, -- HtownHokie 03/24/2022 2:09PM Again 2 totally different things. -- Brewing_Hokie 03/24/2022 2:15PM When they are negotiated between two parties, such as a league and player -- NokieHokie 03/24/2022 2:12PM Bingo! ** -- Brewing_Hokie 03/24/2022 2:13PM i respectfully don’t agree. but to take your argument to its outcome: who -- HtownHokie 03/24/2022 2:01PM A governing body that has actual authority... like an NFL, NHL, MLB setup -- Brewing_Hokie 03/24/2022 2:13PM Just because some idiot is willing to pay $8M doesn't mean its "deserved" -- Hokdawg 03/23/2022 3:10PM And the guy offering it would say you’re an idiot for not doing it… -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 3:21PM it’s: m a n I p u l a t I o n . the payers are determining which schools -- HtownHokie 03/24/2022 1:58PM Again bag money has already determined where players go for a long time.. -- Brewing_Hokie 03/24/2022 2:10PM MANIPULATION was not allowing the players to make money in the first place. ** -- NokieHokie 03/24/2022 2:02PM this is just another version of manipulation. either it’s free-market or -- HtownHokie 03/24/2022 2:26PM Your mistake is thinking college revenue sports are "amateur" they haven't -- NokieHokie 03/24/2022 2:28PM Jerod lied to himself. Nobody was feeding him that he should go to the NFL. ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 11:48AM And the final word on Jerod Evans ..... -- Hokdawg 03/23/2022 3:22PM Bingo! ** -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 12:58PM So you agree only profitable college sports -- fordham 03/23/2022 11:25AM Nope I didn’t say that. -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 11:46AM We are on a Mission to Destroy all Sports for the Fan -- Hokdawg 03/23/2022 11:00AM And now with College Football Conference Craziness and NIL's ** -- Hokdawg 03/23/2022 11:01AM At this point go the Ivy League route and abolish all athletic scholarships -- HokieBrazil 03/23/2022 10:40AM Somewhat extreme, but I get what you are saying -- fsghokie 03/23/2022 2:04PM Wow some of the responses on this thread. It’s ok to dislike the rule but -- uvabasher 03/23/2022 10:04AM Wow, I just asked if he felt he was well compensated after they just spent -- EDGEMAN 03/23/2022 10:24AM I wonder what HH thinks about that deal... -- EDGEMAN 03/23/2022 09:55AM I would immediatey threaten to transfer -- BanditThreeOne 03/23/2022 11:35AM A $8M QB should be able to step onto the field and take them to a NC -- EDGEMAN 03/23/2022 12:10PM Giving him the shakes ** -- Tuckahokie 03/23/2022 10:06AM Lmfao ** -- Jbohokie63 03/23/2022 2:15PM If I was a veteran QB on that team, wouldn't lift a finger to help... -- EDGEMAN 03/23/2022 09:57AM This has been my argument against paying players from day one. -- CaryHokie 03/23/2022 10:50AM Is there not jealousy now from under the table payments? ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:55AM Do you really think there has been under the table payments anywhere close -- CaryHokie 03/23/2022 11:04AM So envy and jealously only manifest when people are offered... -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 12:42PM Probably not, but the jealousy would be there either way, IMO... ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 11:07AM Probably extend that to his O-line. -- EDGEMAN 03/23/2022 10:25AM Yep. ** -- SCHokie1103 03/23/2022 10:10AM Good for that kid. -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 09:24AM Oh I agree. Good for the kid -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 09:44AM And you thought prior to NIL you thought the entire organization of college -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:00AM To put it kindly, college football is effed. -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 09:59AM College football has always been a mess, this is just the next chapter ** -- BROman Hokie 03/23/2022 11:19AM I think you're right. Certaintly for the past 40+ years. -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 11:32AM Agree 100%. Thank you. ** -- SCHokie1103 03/23/2022 10:12AM BINGO! ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:01AM If they want to waste money on an unproven player, meh. It's Athletic Depts -- HokieAl 03/23/2022 09:03AM I'm sure the people pumping millions into NIL will cover the difference -- EDGEMAN 03/23/2022 10:29AM This! ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 09:06AM The SEC..."It just pays more" ** -- Tuckahokie 03/23/2022 08:05AM Not College Football..nope.. -- JRHokie 03/23/2022 01:38AM It sure makes it hard to support college football but I’ll always pull for -- SCHokie1103 03/23/2022 10:15AM Think this all leads to a cap -- OrangeHokieFan 03/22/2022 11:24PM I hope the powers that be do something to keep this from turning into a -- SCHokie1103 03/23/2022 12:12PM Please explain how.... -- 2hhoop3 03/23/2022 12:08PM Your whole argument there will be a cap is...you think there should be? -- marcbvtgm 03/23/2022 10:19AM I dont think you can cap the free market wrt NIL -- kingofcassell 03/23/2022 10:02AM Burn collegiate sports to the ground and start over. ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:31AM We do agree on that one Noke. ** -- SCHokie1103 03/23/2022 12:13PM There is no entity that can even come close to the consideration of that -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 08:57AM Totally agree and it's so simple to do -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 08:05AM Bingo. If there where leadership. ** -- SCHokie1103 03/23/2022 1:59PM So simple but won’t happen. -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 09:28AM And has been for a long time. 👍 ** -- SCHokie1103 03/23/2022 2:00PM I’m totally opposed to a NIL cap. -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 07:54AM Seems to work in pro sports with no one crying foul -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 08:11AM When did pro sports cap endorsement money?!? ** -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 08:41AM They don't but they cap salary -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 08:52AM 1. It isn’t an amateur sports league -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 08:55AM Lets just say I disagree -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 09:08AM Thank you WT. ** -- SCHokie1103 03/23/2022 2:02PM Do you think fans and alumni won't care if the good athletes stop coming? -- reestuart 03/23/2022 09:29AM If you think college football -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 09:21AM It’s been big business for a long time. It’s just went to a level I thought -- SCHokie1103 03/23/2022 12:55PM Ah. If you want a demonstration in market value -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 09:35AM This. ** -- SCHokie1103 03/23/2022 12:56PM Only a few school make most of the money -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 09:04AM Every P5 program brings in tens of -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 09:14AM Tens of millions doesn't go far in college football. -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 09:19AM It doesn't go far because it all gets spent. No athletic department wants -- reestuart 03/23/2022 09:28AM How do you see money being funneled through booster organizations? -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 09:38AM What does one-time pandemic paycuts have to do with anything going forward? ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 09:56AM That's so 2020... ;) ** -- 91HokieBob 03/23/2022 09:59AM I don't think VT has had a huge surplus, no. You're also talking about a -- reestuart 03/23/2022 09:43AM I thought we were talking about money generated from football revenues -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 09:59AM Money generated by football doesn't matter since it's not the only source. -- reestuart 03/23/2022 10:35AM Don't you think that booster money would shrink significantly? -- VTCALS72 03/24/2022 1:16PM Your 2nd point is completely invalidated by the new budget Pry has... ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:03AM It's like WB finally listened..VT FB finally has the makings of a bonafide -- 91HokieBob 03/23/2022 10:16AM Only took NimWhit years of ignorance and Fu flirting to get here! :) ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:19AM Thankful for Fu, without him how long could the mess have continued? -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 10:51AM Of course they are replaceable because of -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 09:23AM Don't act like any individual player has a lasting affect? -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 09:34AM Why would colleges do that? -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 09:55AM Din, Ding, Ding send that person to the head of the class -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 10:12AM Only thing holding it back is the payroll it will need to have. -- reestuart 03/23/2022 10:37AM The NFL has nothing to do with the model I am discussing. -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 10:44AM Hence why universities will never -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 10:27AM How does it hurt players? If you want to play for an education, nothing is -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 09:54AM Are 85 scholies now given out by DII schools? -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 10:21AM WTF does DII have to do with anything? If you are a player who is at a DI -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:25AM How do you keep doing what you are doing if the money is gone? -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 10:37AM What evidence do you have that any of that will happen? ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:41AM We are talking abut the future, it's all opinion -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 10:48AM There seem to be quite a few pretty well-financed G5 programs. -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 1:09PM Good question, IMHO the only way the 30 team thing works is -- VTCALS72 03/24/2022 09:36AM Baked into your thinking here seems to be the idea -- Pride_and_Joy 03/24/2022 10:44AM 30 is a guess, could be more but not so many more. -- VTCALS72 03/24/2022 12:47PM I have to give you credit… -- Pride_and_Joy 03/24/2022 4:53PM What is not logical about -- VTCALS72 03/24/2022 6:17PM What I think isn’t logical -- Pride_and_Joy 03/24/2022 9:13PM Yep. He states that as fact, with no evidence or reason other than it fits -- NokieHokie 03/24/2022 12:17PM Assuming your vision of the future, since we will not be in the top-30 -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:49AM TBH, I think if VT wants to be top-30 division they will be easily in. -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 10:53AM I agree. But I'm shooting down his premise as it stands... :) ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:55AM Lol did you pre-buy his premise??? ** -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 10:56AM I wouldn't pay a penny for any of his absurd premises! ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:58AM Athlete salary is capped in college sports. It's the educational costs. -- reestuart 03/23/2022 08:53AM Endorsement money is not capped in pro sports. No way the NCAA would be -- reestuart 03/23/2022 08:31AM Understood but thats not what NIL money actually is -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 08:45AM Are you capping other college students earnings? -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 10:39AM Seems we had a vigorous discussion on here a while back -- VTCALS72 03/23/2022 09:26AM The whole point of NIL was to remove restrictions on earnings. Nobody is -- reestuart 03/23/2022 08:52AM And the whole point of NIL was exploited in 5 min -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 09:41AM What in this world isn't exploited? ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:04AM "they" didn't screw it up. The NCAA did when they ignored the O'Bannon -- reestuart 03/23/2022 09:44AM Would it be so unfair -- Seikoh_04 03/23/2022 09:17AM So if you start a new job... -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 10:43AM If I get paid 100x the market rate -- Seikoh_04 03/23/2022 12:45PM If you are getting paid 100x what the expected market rate is... -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 1:46PM This! ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:43AM But it's not about performance. It's about public appeal. ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 09:31AM Image is tied to performance -- Seikoh_04 03/23/2022 09:53AM Why do fans fawn over high school recruits then? They haven't played a down -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 09:58AM Because it's free and doesn't cost them anything.... -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 10:35AM How do you quantify that? I agree some of the NIL money out there now -- reestuart 03/23/2022 09:22AM I get it -- Seikoh_04 03/23/2022 09:47AM Recruits have always been bought... This changes nothing! ** -- NokieHokie 03/23/2022 10:04AM I don't like the buying of recruits. But at the same time, the NCAA has -- reestuart 03/23/2022 09:54AM Bingo! Double Bingo for the last sentence!! -- Brewing_Hokie 03/23/2022 10:47AM Don't you need a players union to agree to a salary cap? -- ChrisLords 03/23/2022 01:14AM These children will collapse -- YardBird 03/22/2022 10:54PM By 'children' you mean legal adults? ** -- LonghornHokie 03/23/2022 05:11AM Yep, and that’s their problem. -- Pride_and_Joy 03/23/2022 07:56AM Yep. Crazy how the assumption is these kids needing to manage -- reestuart 03/23/2022 09:14AM Guaranteed he’s not actually getting anything near that. ** -- reestuart 03/22/2022 9:55PM I haven't seen any articles linking the 8mil NIL deal to this recently -- ChrisLords 03/23/2022 01:34AM Arch is about the only guy with actual market value -- Wild Turkey 03/23/2022 08:59AM You havent looked hard -- DownSouthHokieGA 03/23/2022 08:43AMTech Sideline is Presented By:
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