Prob thinking of 141 a few years ago. The year Carter came back from his

hammy. Without Carter, Henderson was the class of 141 in the ACC and top 5 in the nation, but lost to Bright the last weekend of the regular season. When Carter made his ridic comeback to the mat, Carter was seeded #1 and Bright was #2, with Henderson the only nationally ranked guy at #3.

Even more than head to head, head to head in ACC duals seems to have the most value. Remember 3 or 4 years ago when Jarrod beat Kraisser at one of the holiday tournament but lost to him in the ACC dual, and Kraisser got the top seed at ACCs. Jarrod pinned Kraisser in the finals that year - I remember the picture of Jarrod flexing that hokiesports ran after that ACC title.

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Posted: 02/23/2016 at 1:58PM

First ACC tourney breakdown, Bid allocations come out Thursday! -- Jerseyhokie29 02/23/2016 09:28AM

ANY upset in this tournament is going to be huge and... -- HokieJay 02/23/2016 9:13PM

Pop takes NCSU to ACC Champs ; that will be big news ** -- HealthHokie 02/23/2016 12:36PM

The good news is we still have to wrestle -- texashokie1 02/23/2016 1:52PM

Should be interesting...noticed Pop was spinning Dresser's comments into -- Palmetto Hokie 02/23/2016 2:15PM

Coaches will do that ** -- jrbhokie 02/23/2016 8:19PM

That 12 pt difference at 165 is hurting...hoping David can get something ** -- Palmetto Hokie 02/23/2016 12:33PM

David's 1st match could decide team title. -- hokie576 02/23/2016 1:44PM

Why do you have Boykin seeded above Nye? ** -- Palmetto Hokie 02/23/2016 11:46AM

My mistake, my notes have Boykin winning 5-3 -- Jerseyhokie29 02/23/2016 12:17PM

So that reduces NC State's total by 2 pts to 80 right?** -- Palmetto Hokie 02/23/2016 12:27PM

Yeah which is what i had them at before i switched them intially -- Jerseyhokie29 02/23/2016 12:36PM

How did you do the points? -- texashokie1 02/23/2016 10:15AM

Placement plus advancement without upset -- Jerseyhokie29 02/23/2016 10:31AM

Thanks.....Couple Other Question -- texashokie1 02/23/2016 11:19AM

Generally the ACC coaches place a ton of value on head to head -- Jerseyhokie29 02/23/2016 12:20PM

Prob thinking of 141 a few years ago. The year Carter came back from his -- MDHokieFan5 02/23/2016 1:58PM

Comments back -- texashokie1 02/23/2016 1:57PM

Good stuff! Thanks for that. Regarding the bids... -- Hokie Proud 02/23/2016 10:01AM

Completely correct, though if morris gets the bid at 133 -- Jerseyhokie29 02/23/2016 10:03AM

Great! Thanks very much Jersey -- Hokie Proud 02/23/2016 10:09AM

So my takeaway is that we only have 6 surefire locks for NCAAs -- IV_Hokie12 02/23/2016 09:46AM

We have 8 that are sure fire -- texashokie1 02/23/2016 10:11AM

I'd call Brascetta and McFadden surefire even if they needed at large bids -- Jerseyhokie29 02/23/2016 09:49AM

I think Szymanksi is UNC's wrestler at 133. ** -- hokietony 02/23/2016 09:43AM

Indeed he is, looked to quickly, saw Feb 6th results on wrestlestats ** -- Jerseyhokie29 02/23/2016 09:46AM

ACC -- emhokie 02/23/2016 09:39AM

Chishko Jack upset would be a huge 6 pt swing -- Jerseyhokie29 02/23/2016 09:47AM

Re: Chishko Jack upset would be a huge 6 pt swing -- vtdadingf 02/23/2016 11:44AM

Chishko has to avoid that double under position jack kept snapping him into -- Jerseyhokie29 02/23/2016 12:22PM

Prob thinking of 141 a few years ago. The year Carter came back from his

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