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Talent not really the issue

Coaching certainly is, at defensive coordinator and yes, head coach.

Brian Kelly is a good coach but not an elite one.

Everyone who has ever won big at ND (Ara, Devine, Holtz) says that they needed every single bit of big school coaching experience they had to handle the pressure, the off the field and media demands, etc..

I think that it takes an elite coach to win at ND.

Kelly had a good year in 2012 and last year.

So, he had bought some goodwill with the administration if not the fans.

But, he is not an elite coach. He showed that ND can recruit and win again after the Davie, Willingham and Weis regimes, but he may have hit his ceiling at ND.

I think that last year's 10-3 record, while overcoming quite a lot of adversity in the form of serious injuries, masked the defensive problems that manifested themselves again this year.

The offense is averaging 37.2 points and 455.8 yards per gameand the team is 1-3.

Kelly probably survives this year after jettisoning his DC, but his seat will be very, very warm next years.

[Post edited by TerryD at 09/25/2016 3:58PM]

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Posted: 09/25/2016 at 3:58PM

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Those are exactly what I was referring to. -- East Cobb Hokie 09/26/2016 3:26PM

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Talent not really the issue -- TerryD 09/25/2016 3:58PM

Just keep your hands off our head coach. ;) ** -- Old Line Hokie 09/25/2016 4:59PM

Les Miles just became available. LSU just fired him. ** -- HOO86 09/25/2016 5:44PM

Sold ** -- goldendomer 09/25/2016 5:59PM

I live in Baton Rouge -- TerryD 09/25/2016 9:37PM

Rather have him then BK, low bar I know. ** -- goldendomer 09/25/2016 11:40PM

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The students were chanting to fire him at the game...never a good sign. ** -- Stech 09/25/2016 2:43PM

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Sums him up pretty well ** -- goldendomer 09/26/2016 11:57AM

Talent not really the issue

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