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What? So how come the ACC can't shake down networks in such a way?

The Big12 negotiated incredibly well to keep their payouts the same. And they've also been able to negotiate more money from their anchor bowl, the Sugar, than the 14 team ACC was able to negotiate for its anchor bowl, the Orange.

And why wasn't the ACC able to shake down their network when they were struggling to survive? And believe me, had ESPN not promised a network, the ACC would have been the one being picked apart.

No matter how you try to spin it, the Big12 leadership has negotiated much better deals than their ACC counterparts. And the Big12 schools still own their tier 3 TV rights. Those schools are cashing in millions from those right now in addition to league payouts. And in the case of Texas and Oklahoma, those schools are cashing in tens of millions from tier 3 content that the ACC schools are not able to capitalize on.

Geography is what doomed the Big12. There really isn't anywhere for them to expand to. But despite that, the ACC made it close when determining who numero 4 in the P4 would be. Far closer than it should have ever been.

(In response to this post by Freddyburg Hokie)

Posted: 10/21/2016 at 6:38PM

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Iowa State AD goes on a Rant. -- HOO86 10/21/2016 05:23AM

They are in 3rd place when it comes to per school payout. -- chuckd4vt 10/21/2016 12:14PM

Then what is everyone in the B12 worried - like the ISU AD? -- Mr. Touchdown 10/22/2016 6:44PM

For as bad a shape as the Big12 is in, it still earns more than the ACC. -- chuckd4vt 10/22/2016 7:53PM

Actually, it does mean that it is economically inviable -- daveinop 10/23/2016 12:39PM

No way. They had nowhere to expand, even w/ Nebraska, Colorado, and A&M. -- chuckd4vt 10/23/2016 3:12PM

So you no longer blame ACC leadership for losing Maryland? ** -- daveinop 10/24/2016 07:34AM

This pretty much sums up in a nutshell what happened and the -- RJHokie 10/23/2016 12:45PM

NO it is not always about money and if it was -- Maroon Doom 10/22/2016 2:20PM

Link? -- daveinop 10/22/2016 11:56AM

Not spending an hour on that. Pretty evident to all, including IowaSt. AD. -- chuckd4vt 10/22/2016 12:03PM

T/F. WVU would cancel its Tier 3 deal today if it received an ACC invite ** -- daveinop 10/22/2016 12:10PM

Most certainly. However, the Big12 leadership has that doomed league.... -- chuckd4vt 10/22/2016 4:34PM

Know why the Big12 minus 2 is making more per school than ACC? -- Atlee Hokie 10/26/2016 07:52AM

For now, true. But they won't get that sweetheart deal again.... -- Freddyburg Hokie 10/24/2016 3:09PM

Change "Leadership" to "Media Negotiators", and I'll agree. ** -- Late 80s Hokie 10/24/2016 1:06PM

Ummm, B12 dismantled a mega conference; ACC built one. Spin away... ** -- daveinop 10/23/2016 10:10AM

Nope. ACC had easy pickings w/ the Big East. Big12 didn't. -- chuckd4vt 10/23/2016 2:47PM

How about Nebraska, Texas A&M, Colorado and Missouri -- Maroon Doom 10/22/2016 5:37PM

So disallow networks to lump content into an underpaying contract? -- chuckd4vt 10/23/2016 01:09AM

I agree with part of what you are saying. ACC leadership (?) sucks. -- Atlee Hokie 10/26/2016 08:02AM

How is that luck? The network could have EASILY paid less. -- chuckd4vt 10/26/2016 2:25PM

More rationalizing to support a delusional view. ** -- marcbvtgm 10/22/2016 5:05PM

Hip shot. if it is all about money and the Big 12 pays more, then why -- daveinop 10/22/2016 12:06PM

The map did them in. That's it. Shoulda never been close w/ the ACC. -- chuckd4vt 10/22/2016 4:39PM

For now. Their current payout comes from a fortuitous turn of events.... -- Freddyburg Hokie 10/21/2016 2:03PM

What? So how come the ACC can't shake down networks in such a way? -- chuckd4vt 10/21/2016 6:38PM

You're absolutely right. It also helped them that they had some really good -- Freddyburg Hokie 10/22/2016 7:46PM

Big 12 is no longer a P5 confefrence -- 33laszlo99 10/23/2016 1:18PM

Wrong. Big12 schools earn more from Playoffs & BCS than ACC schools now. -- chuckd4vt 10/23/2016 3:20PM

Problem is the ACC leadership signed a very LONG contract when we sucked. -- chuckd4vt 10/22/2016 8:22PM

They may not have had the leverage to sign a 5 year deal... -- Freddyburg Hokie 10/24/2016 3:06PM

No, the problem back then was Swofford was in charge. -- Atlee Hokie 10/26/2016 08:17AM

A decent negotiator would have given them leverage. -- chuckd4vt 10/24/2016 11:42PM

You are correct in this assessment. Swofford screwed up. -- Atlee Hokie 10/26/2016 08:24AM

I actually feel kind of bad for Iowa State -- OU_Sooner 10/21/2016 10:19AM

The competition between ESPN and Fox will influence changes. -- HOO86 10/21/2016 10:45AM

I believe the SEC has mixed reviews about the addition of Mizzouri -- VTHokie2000 10/21/2016 4:42PM

It's understandable why he's PO'ed -- I85Hokie 10/21/2016 09:07AM

Re: Iowa State AD goes on a Rant. -- UCHusky90 10/21/2016 07:58AM

The problem from Iowa State they are irrelevant -- Mercury 10/21/2016 6:09PM

What? So how come the ACC can't shake down networks in such a way?

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