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It was a great deal for ND, they got what they were looking for.


I'm just saying that it has been a good deal for the ACC. No, the SEC would not have done the deal. Yes, the ACC wasn't as strong or stable at the time. But that is part of my point. The ND deal was something that added some strength to the ACC. It wasn't the biggest thing, but it was a plus. The bigger improvements were GOR, and improved play on the field (thanks in part to some good coaching hires).

Your statement that, "A full-member Notre Dame would've brought more to the table.", I fully agree with that. And I am also not a big fan of 14.5 members. But a full-member ND was never an option, no matter how much pressure the ACC put on ND. It just wasn't going to happen. However, this deal has been a plus for the ACC, and for VT who got to beat ND at their field this year. That game would have never happened without this deal. Plus, ND visits Blacksburg in 2018. We play them again in 2019 and 2021. If they were in the Atlantic division of the ACC like Clemson and FSU, we would not get to play them nearly as often. There are a lot of positives to the deal, more so than negatives. They were not joining the ACC for football, it just wasn't going to happen. They would have gone BIG 12 or AAC first for other sports.

(In response to this post by Old Line Hokie)

Posted: 05/12/2017 at 2:16PM


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  Assuming there will be only 4 Power conferences in the future -- Calamitous 05/12/2017 10:36AM
  Re: Assuming there will be only 4 Power conferences in the future -- Millpoint 05/12/2017 1:30PM
  ND will need to at least play a full division schedule. 7 games. -- Maroon Baboon 05/13/2017 11:41AM
  ND fans don't want this -- TerryD 05/12/2017 6:00PM
  Re: ND fans don't want this -- Millpoint 05/12/2017 6:09PM
  Here goes -- SoCloseHokie 05/12/2017 6:07PM
  There seems to be no coordination of all this. -- Maroon Baboon 05/12/2017 12:38PM
  Re: There seems to be no coordination of all this. -- 33laszlo99 05/12/2017 3:08PM
  Mucho coordination recently. Playoffs? Paying Players? -- chuckd4vt 05/12/2017 1:56PM
  I was referring to conference membership. -- Maroon Baboon 05/12/2017 3:01PM
  Re: Assuming there will be only 4 Power conferences in the future -- Millpoint 05/12/2017 12:10PM
  I really need to simplify my posts... which one team gets left out of P4? -- Calamitous 05/12/2017 11:27AM
  Someone or multiples in the Big XII -- HOO86 05/12/2017 1:31PM
  Re: I really need to simplify my posts... which one team gets left out of P4? -- 2hhoop3 05/12/2017 11:52AM
  1 of these 4: TCU, KSU, ISU, or Baylor -- Old Line Hokie 05/12/2017 11:48AM
  Re: 1 of these 4: TCU, KSU, ISU, or Baylor -- Millpoint 05/12/2017 6:34PM
  Baylor IMO ** -- VTECHFAN 05/12/2017 6:14PM
  Re: 1 of these 4: TCU, KSU, ISU, or Baylor -- Millpoint 05/12/2017 12:12PM
  Today, it would be Baylor for all their off the field "issues." -- chuckd4vt 05/12/2017 12:11PM
  Notre Dame will remain an independent.... -- 2hhoop3 05/12/2017 10:55AM
  ND is dangling no carrots -- TerryD 05/12/2017 10:34AM
  I have no illusions ND is ever joining a conference... -- Calamitous 05/12/2017 10:43AM
  Go back and look... -- TerryD 05/12/2017 12:30PM
  Never argued that they will never give up independence.... -- Calamitous 05/12/2017 12:39PM
  That was likely the ACC's idea... -- TerryD 05/12/2017 2:28PM
  Notre Dame took advantage of the ACC's weaknesses -- Old Line Hokie 05/12/2017 11:32AM
  I think the ND deal has turned out well for the ACC -- wwhokie1 05/12/2017 1:45PM
  Most ND fans dislike the ACC deal -- TerryD 05/12/2017 2:21PM
  Notre Dame still got the better of the deal.... -- Old Line Hokie 05/12/2017 1:59PM
  It was a great deal for ND, they got what they were looking for. -- wwhokie1 05/12/2017 2:16PM
  I agree that the GOR was a much bigger deal along with the ACCN. ** -- Old Line Hokie 05/12/2017 4:54PM
  ND aided in those, too -- TerryD 05/12/2017 6:02PM
  I'm assuming that the ACC will show ... -- Old Line Hokie 05/12/2017 6:26PM
  Don't forget the fact, the ACC & ESPN got all other ND sports -- manassashoo 05/12/2017 11:59AM
  Good analysis..... -- 2hhoop3 05/12/2017 11:42AM
  Re: I have no illusions ND is ever joining a conference... -- 2hhoop3 05/12/2017 11:09AM
  ND was talking partial deal with Big 12 at the time -- TerryD 05/12/2017 12:29PM
  At that time? Nothing. Stay at 14, not 14 1/2. ** -- Calamitous 05/12/2017 11:13AM
  How does 24/26 sports in ACC = "1/2"?? ** -- TerryD 05/12/2017 12:33PM
  14.1... 14.9... Doesn't matter. ND isn't ACC to me ** -- Calamitous 05/12/2017 12:40PM
  Re: At that time? Nothing. Stay at 14, not 14 1/2. -- 2hhoop3 05/12/2017 11:29AM
  That's not how it played out. -- chuckd4vt 05/12/2017 1:21PM
  You memory is... -- 2hhoop3 05/12/2017 1:48PM
  So, you disagree? The VT deal is pretty much common knowledge. -- chuckd4vt 05/12/2017 2:03PM
  Yes I disagree... -- 2hhoop3 05/12/2017 2:36PM
  OK. So, you're refuting what everyone else has said about it then. -- chuckd4vt 05/12/2017 6:47PM
  No.. -- 2hhoop3 05/15/2017 09:25AM
  I've been correct much more than I've been wrong. -- chuckd4vt 05/15/2017 09:53AM
  Another of your fantasies..... -- 2hhoop3 05/15/2017 10:38AM
  What schools would have left if Notre Dame had not become -- VTHokie2000 05/12/2017 12:06PM
  Under no circumstances should ND be allowed to participate -- crabcake77 05/12/2017 10:50AM

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