Don't know why anyone would be upset/surprised... -- TerryD 06/21/2017 2:49PM We are not joining. ND is secure at minimum till 2036 -- goldendomer 06/22/2017 07:00AM WADR if they go to a P-4, I am not buying your date. -- Stech 06/22/2017 8:39PM What's the incentive for any of the conferences to want to go -- reestuart 06/23/2017 11:31AM Not necessarily. The Playoff can incorporate the CCGs -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 12:58PM If they go to 8 team, I'm sure it will include all conference champs, -- reestuart 06/23/2017 1:20PM If they go to 8, then it is unlikely the Presidents will agree -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 1:37PM Agree with that, but the at-larges will still need to come from somewhere. -- reestuart 06/23/2017 1:48PM ND can always join the ACC -- EDGEMAN 06/24/2017 07:22AM Since conferences are not going to give up their CCGs -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 2:05PM OK, sorry. I can be dense at times. I'm not sure how to essentially -- reestuart 06/23/2017 3:22PM No worries. It can get confusing at times because there -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 3:55PM The separation is real . -- goldendomer 06/23/2017 07:01AM They won't accept irrelevance for very long. "token access" will kill -- daveinop 06/23/2017 4:46PM You assume ND cares about winning? They don't. -- goldendomer 06/23/2017 10:31PM You are Exhibit A that ND fans care a lot about winning ** -- daveinop 06/24/2017 10:20AM Fans do, but there is a mix in the fan-base about -- goldendomer 06/24/2017 1:11PM Time tends to take care of these things. Hopefully some of the changes you -- daveinop 06/25/2017 12:03PM Even if NBC decided to not renew the contract, you don't think -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 4:56PM The only reason NBC doesn't renew is if it isn't profitable -- daveinop 06/24/2017 10:18AM I could see NBC decide not to renew because it was able to lure -- VTHokie2000 06/26/2017 10:57AM Yeah, they'd get another deal in less than a couple of seconds. -- reestuart 06/23/2017 9:04PM The only possible reason I could see NBC decide to not renew -- VTHokie2000 06/24/2017 10:11AM Correct. All ACC decisions should be based.... -- TerryD 06/22/2017 1:48PM Caveat: ACC can have an impact on playoff criteria/definition. -- crabcake77 06/22/2017 11:04PM If the power conference left the ACC to form their own association -- VTHokie2000 06/22/2017 12:57PM Re: If the power conference left the ACC to form their own association -- 33laszlo99 06/23/2017 12:18AM Making the ACC "attractive" enough for ND is folly -- TerryD 06/23/2017 11:26AM ACC screwed up when it struck the original deal with ND. -- Atlee Hokie 06/28/2017 04:56AM Some ND fans think ND gave up too much -- TerryD 06/28/2017 05:14AM Understand that. I'm mostly thinking of the future. -- Atlee Hokie 06/28/2017 05:30AM Understood ** -- TerryD 06/28/2017 5:32PM If I were running the conference, when the current contract ended .... -- Atlee Hokie 06/28/2017 05:01AM Yes, I did mean the NCAA not the ACC. Yes, I know the Playoff -- VTHokie2000 06/23/2017 10:25AM Without knowledge of all legal issues with that.. -- TerryD 06/22/2017 1:15PM I don't know all the legal issues that would come with that either -- VTHokie2000 06/22/2017 1:33PM The fact is with the plan -- goldendomer 06/22/2017 1:45PM Oh I know anyone can sue anyone for anything these days -- VTHokie2000 06/22/2017 1:56PM Good luck selling "token access" to recruits and future Head coaches... -- Mr. Touchdown 06/22/2017 11:13AM They're not making a run like that more than once a decade. -- reestuart 06/22/2017 1:41PM It's more fun to dislike you guys when you are good -- daveinop 06/23/2017 4:37PM Did you run that post by Tim Brando? ** -- reestuart 06/21/2017 4:36PM He has no "souces" at ND.... -- TerryD 06/22/2017 07:51AM Ree said that TIC. ** -- goldendomer 06/22/2017 07:54AM Yep. ** -- reestuart 06/22/2017 12:50PM Maybe some in the ACC thought things would be different -- VTHokie2000 06/21/2017 3:22PM ACC knew exactly what they were doing -- Mercury 06/21/2017 4:15PM The ACC may have known what it was doing when it agreed to the deal -- VTHokie2000 06/21/2017 6:55PM Actually clemson president wake and duke president involved -- Mercury 06/22/2017 1:09PM Clemson isn't a private school ** -- Bashful Baron 06/22/2017 2:23PM Typical picky answer -- Mercury 06/22/2017 6:33PM Hold on a minute... -- Bashful Baron 06/22/2017 10:50PM Who in the world thinks Clemson is private? -- EDGEMAN 06/23/2017 09:56AM I do believe the vast majority of people within the ACC Family -- VTHokie2000 06/22/2017 1:27PM So, they ignored clear statements from ND and went with -- TerryD 06/21/2017 3:45PM ND is putting language into its contracts about joining a conference. -- HOO86 06/21/2017 4:04PM Question is have they put that language in contracts in the past? -- reestuart 06/21/2017 4:37PM Doubtful. Wouldn't have been a need to specify 5 games. ** -- HOO86 06/21/2017 4:41PM True dat, but I wonder if they'd put any type of conference -- reestuart 06/21/2017 4:44PM Not sure. They're doing it now though. -- HOO86 06/21/2017 4:55PM Contingency only, not plan or intent -- TerryD 06/21/2017 5:17PM Why do a contingency now versus the other 100+ yrs where it wasn't needed? ** -- Stech 06/21/2017 5:38PM Easy----insurance if a P4 playoff only happens -- TerryD 06/22/2017 07:58AM If that happens, we need to follow up with enough ACC Ice Hockey programs.. -- EDGEMAN 06/23/2017 09:59AM NHL is sponsoring a feasibility study for more college hockey -- HOO86 06/23/2017 10:38AM I completely agree. Also, -- Stech 06/22/2017 5:40PM ^^ This is accurate. ^^ ** -- crabcake77 06/22/2017 10:16AM Re: ^^ This is accurate. ^^ -- crabcake77 06/22/2017 10:18AM Was it ND's stipulation or the ACC's? -- dayooper 06/21/2017 6:50PM It's ND's contract, not the ACC's contract. ** -- Stech 06/22/2017 07:02AM Thanks* ** -- dayooper 06/22/2017 08:09AM Basically. It may not be that much different than how some -- VTHokie2000 06/21/2017 4:03PM
