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I thought this was good article from a Northerner living in the South. -- HokieEngineer 08/16/2017 12:03PM The problem I have with statue removal is the slippery slope down which it -- Hokie CPA 08/16/2017 09:39AM You realize people can draw lines and make distinctions? -- Manbearpig 08/16/2017 11:28AM Those "guys who rebelled" are United States Veterans. -- Hokie CPA 08/16/2017 11:43AM No, they betrayed our country to preserve slavery in their home states -- Manbearpig 08/16/2017 11:48AM Even the ones who NEVER served in the US Army are US vets. -- Hokie CPA 08/16/2017 12:36PM Doesn't change a single thing they did. ** -- reestuart 08/16/2017 1:02PM Such as fighting to repel an invading army from their home. -- Hokie CPA 08/16/2017 1:12PM According to this link, that's not exactly true... -- reestuart 08/16/2017 1:53PM The problem I have with any change, is that anarchy is the logical endpoint ** -- Beerman 08/16/2017 10:18AM Ah, the old slippery slope logical fallacy... -- BB Hokie 08/16/2017 09:58AM I can see the argument for taking down the Lee statue. After all, he -- HokieEngineer 08/16/2017 10:16AM Except for the fact that secession is consitutional -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 10:23AM Madison felt that the states could not leave the union (without the consent -- HokieEngineer 08/16/2017 10:30AM True- but the mechanism for secession was never devised -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 10:52AM Not even a majority. ** -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:14AM Except I'm not sure a lot of the northern states wouldn't have vote to let -- Hokie CPA 08/16/2017 11:22AM Interesting hypothetical. And completely irrelevant. ** -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:23AM Moot point- but what I think is the biggest tragedy -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 11:19AM Can you imagine if the country faced an issue like that today? -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:23AM Kali is trying to secede currently ** -- fordham 08/16/2017 12:29PM No it isn't ** -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 1:11PM They are working to get a ballot initiative, everything in kali -- fordham 08/16/2017 2:55PM I would hardly describe that as "Cali is trying to secede" -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 2:59PM And that position has been supported many times, right up through Scalia -- MAHokie69 08/16/2017 10:44AM Except proof IS presented. -- Hokie CPA 08/16/2017 10:16AM Sounds like the playbook of every politician. ** -- HokieSignGuy 08/16/2017 10:01AM You are building up a boogy man that doesn't exist -- VTSnake 08/16/2017 09:51AM Let me put it this way- give me the name of one leader from -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 10:14AM Name one person on the left you would vote for? ** -- Manbearpig 08/16/2017 10:46AM I can't think of anybody...Bernie has some good policies -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 10:54AM Exactly, you wouldn't vote for anyone -- Manbearpig 08/16/2017 11:00AM Because they are captive of the fringe left- thanks for -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 11:10AM That's a silly conclusion to jump to -- Manbearpig 08/16/2017 11:15AM I voted for Doug Wilder, and if the left had someone with the -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 11:21AM Hillary Clinton ** -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:26AM National joke day. ** -- RTFC 08/16/2017 11:34AM Hah. She has a ton of flaws that made it impossible to vote for her, but -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:40AM I think you missed WestEnd's request for integrity to be a part of it. -- vthokieq 08/16/2017 11:58AM Corrupt part is what -- RTFC 08/16/2017 11:43AM You already said you would vote for none of them -- Manbearpig 08/16/2017 11:24AM You are a very thoughtful poster, but you love to twist words -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 11:29AM Kaine and Warner have and will vote for them ** -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 10:57AM Kaine? No way...maybe Warner- those his performance -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 11:11AM Despicable? C'mon man. It's language like that which escalates the rhetoric -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:13AM Ok, it was deploarable ** -- RTFC 08/16/2017 11:40AM I didn't vote for Trump, but I would vote for him over Kaine -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 11:20AM I wouldn't say it doesn't exist -- I'd say it's not as prevelant -- Nova Hokie 95 08/16/2017 10:02AM Well said.. I agree completely..the lunatic fringe seeks to limit -> -- HOKIERIT 08/16/2017 10:12AM I really don't think I am. Do you REALLY think it stops at Confederates? -- Hokie CPA 08/16/2017 10:01AM Great post ** -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 09:45AM Second that ** -- fordham 08/16/2017 09:49AM Am I alone in not remotely caring about this issue on any level? -- HokieNoVA 08/16/2017 09:39AM Actually 3 deaths. Anyway, hard to answer your question. I try -- HokieNLot11 08/16/2017 09:59AM No, 1 death... -- HokieNoVA 08/16/2017 10:11AM You are right but I think of their families and what they are -- HokieNLot11 08/16/2017 11:41AM Weren't they just leaving the actual protest location? -- 48zip 08/16/2017 12:51PM Agree. And they were following the governor when this happened. -- 48zip 08/16/2017 10:16AM Yup. I was astonished the police just let the groups mingle and -- HokieSignGuy 08/16/2017 10:08AM Actually, Lee opposed slavery, FWIW -- WestyHokie 08/16/2017 09:26AM Hmmm, reading this and saying he 'opposed' slavery . . . -- MidloHokie 08/16/2017 10:31AM I'm not worried about statue removal changing history. It wont. -- HokieSignGuy 08/16/2017 09:05AM This notiont that it strengthens racists is absurd -- Manbearpig 08/16/2017 09:22AM I do think the removals give the KKK and Fascists a recruiting -- HokieNLot11 08/16/2017 10:02AM That's the precise argument the left uses about fighting terrorism ** -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:29AM It doesn't make racists - it does give them something to rally around. -- RTFC 08/16/2017 09:54AM It most certainly will impact them... they are feeling underattack from -- HokieSignGuy 08/16/2017 09:26AM Removing the statues will change nothing -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 09:15AM BTW, fascists are not communists. -- Guy LeDouche 08/16/2017 09:41AM Maybe in philosophy but not in the end result of death, misery -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 09:44AM "Imagined societal ills". - LOL ** -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 09:17AM One doesn't have to be a white anything to want to keep the statues. -- 48zip 08/16/2017 09:13AM Wow, I just got serious dejavu reading this... did we have this same exact -- HokieSignGuy 08/16/2017 09:23AM Ha. No idea. ** -- 48zip 08/16/2017 09:31AM For the last time 48, he's NOT beating those children, ok? ** -- hoosnowahokie 08/16/2017 09:15AM Looks like a trophy for "Keep Away" (pic inside) -- 48zip 08/16/2017 09:17AM A couple of thoughts re: the timing. -- 48zip 08/16/2017 08:53AM More info on timing... -- BB Hokie 08/16/2017 09:18AM Thanks. interesting. But, as i understand.... -- 48zip 08/16/2017 09:30AM 1896 was a significant turning point -- MAHokie69 08/16/2017 09:57AM Makes it sound like the Confederates were less of an impact than Plessy. -- 48zip 08/16/2017 10:21AM I'm wondering if other factors, such as the 50th anniversary, -- HokieSignGuy 08/16/2017 09:34AM Also possible that the economy was turning for the worse -- reestuart 08/16/2017 09:40AM I have very mixed feelings about it ... -- vt90 08/16/2017 08:44AM Hundreds of millions of dollars to pull down some monuments? Are you using -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 09:07AM It cost over two million to remove four monuments in New Orleans. ** -- DHokie 08/16/2017 10:27AM It isn't just statues. Where will it end? -- vt90 08/16/2017 09:37AM You know I love you but that is a completely unconvincing argument ** -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:08AM Lol. I know. some fat guy with a ladder and tow strap did it yesterday. -- HokieSignGuy 08/16/2017 09:13AM That was a female albeit tough to tell...arrested yesterday. ** -- Hockey Dad 08/16/2017 09:27AM That was a small statue- nothing on the order of what's on -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 09:16AM True... I fear for the Stonewall Jackson Statue in Manassas Battlefield -- HokieSignGuy 08/16/2017 09:21AM Doesn't Richmond have a commission trying to figure out what to do with MA? -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 09:20AM Here's how the commission is being framed right now -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 09:31AM They were directed by the mayor to NOT consider removal. -- 48zip 08/16/2017 09:34AM True- but he also said that if during the public comment sessions -- WestEndHokie39 08/16/2017 09:42AM I haven't heard him sound biased, but I may be wrong. -- 48zip 08/16/2017 09:44AM Brother lives in city and is fairly confident the city will handle calmly ** -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:07AM I get that sense, too. ** -- 48zip 08/16/2017 12:49PM Best thing they can do is not make a decision right now. ** -- HokieSignGuy 08/16/2017 11:09AM All seems pretty subjective to this 'southern boy' -- Bburg Native 08/16/2017 08:44AM What about the men drafted to fight for the South? (more) -- Mama Goose 08/16/2017 10:26AM Though I disagree with some of your arguments, they're reasonable. -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 09:04AM The problem is nowadays sane, rational people aren't heard. -- vthokieq 08/16/2017 09:54AM Agreed. That phenomenon has always existed but it's at a high ebb right now -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:11AM Like him or not, as long as Trump is in, nobody will be rational. -- HokieSignGuy 08/16/2017 1:03PM I wish I shared that confidence. ** -- vthokieq 08/16/2017 11:17AM Might just be hope. I have faith in this stupid country, I guess ** -- CPRVHokie 08/16/2017 11:19AM Well said Midlo although there may be some very fine people who disagree. ** -- Cal Naughton Jr 08/16/2017 08:44AM Thanks . . . believe me I have very mixed feelings too . . -- MidloHokie 08/16/2017 09:00AMTech Sideline is Presented By:
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