Conference Realignment Board

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He makes good points, as do you, but

making an argument against the committee's choice this year, or choices over multiple years, is easy.

But his argument (at least in what I watched from Cowherd) comes right after "there wasn't a good choice." He even goes so far as to characterize the bubble teams' resumes as "average" or "mediocre" or something like that. Really? Well then your credibility is seriously questionable, because it seems you don't know what words mean.

But the fundamental issue I have with all of the arguments about the committee's decisions, the inconsistency, the bias, etc., is:

So how would you do it?

To me, the only decent answers to that are:
1. Make conference championship a prereq. You still have to leave someone qualified out, but you've really simplified things this way. I'm not convinced it's "better," but it's easier for sure. You won't get rid of "but on a neutral field, X would beat Y" or "A beat B by 21 and C did blahblahblah, but B got in because..." The "better team" argument will persist, but the CFP can fall back on "rules are rules. You wanted objective, you got it."

2. Adopt a computer ranking. Totally objective, except for the fact that some dork decided what the important criteria are and how to weight them...and how to value time value of those criteria, etc. Same arguments about "wrong selection" will persist. People argue "well, if it's computers, at least teams will know what they have to do." Bullshit. When the bar to clear is dependent on how the competition performs and the calculation for the bar is complicated, you really don't know "what you have to do." How many "recognized" computer rankings are there? Hell, the BCS had a bunch and then chose to throw out high and low for no apparent reason other than "well, if one looks different, it must be wrong and we shall not count it." I'm as quantitative a person as you know and I don't think computer rankings are the way to go.

I'm really fine with existing or 1 or 2 (although I think 2 is the worst)...just pointing out that there's a "devil you know vs. don't know" element to switching.

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Posted: 12/06/2017 at 10:59AM

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Dan Wolken: CFP Committee Got it Wrong: Alabama is in on brand loyalty only -- HOO86 12/04/2017 2:13PM

Then maybe college football should just change to one criteria. -- Atlee Hokie 12/11/2017 05:14AM

I would counter that OSU was penalized for losing by 31 to Iowa. -- Atlee Hokie 12/11/2017 04:59AM

The criteria is wayyy to vague to pick the best...so if Bama and Ohio State -- Stech 12/05/2017 08:14AM

What criteria do you believe will always get the 4 best teams in? ** -- Atlee Hokie 12/11/2017 04:56AM

Re: What criteria do you believe will always get the 4 best teams in? -- Stech 12/11/2017 06:52AM

Why include three schools within a few hours of one another for ratings? -- lawhokie 12/05/2017 8:41PM

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Fell to what pressure? -- Pylons 12/05/2017 09:19AM

"ESPN spent the whole weekend pushing Bama", no way the committee watching -- Stech 12/05/2017 5:57PM

More like "influence" than "pressure" then, but -- Pylons 12/06/2017 08:39AM

Bama gets a bye week. -- Maroon Baboon 12/04/2017 11:31PM

It's a good explanation of why it's hard to choose the top 4 -- Pylons 12/04/2017 7:48PM

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Their supposed to define and use the criteria, that doesn't happen for Bama -- Stech 12/05/2017 08:17AM

2 questions -- Pylons 12/05/2017 08:35AM

You are missing my point, I was not happy with Ohio State last year, this -- Stech 12/05/2017 6:28PM

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Got to run, but listen to Joel Klatt above. He has more on it too, if you -- Stech 12/06/2017 09:03AM

He makes good points, as do you, but -- Pylons 12/06/2017 10:59AM

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Your statement -- VTHokie2000 12/07/2017 12:39PM

At the beginning of the season, all conferences are equal. -- crabcake77 12/07/2017 4:26PM

Fwiw, "if you win your conference, you are by default the best" -- Pylons 12/07/2017 11:04AM

Champion (definition) -- crabcake77 12/07/2017 3:32PM

Yep, different from best -- Pylons 12/07/2017 3:47PM

Closest is "best" and those aren't serious questions. -- crabcake77 12/07/2017 4:46PM

They're absolutely serious questions -- Pylons 12/08/2017 07:05AM

OK. I think we're getting at the same thing from different angles. -- crabcake77 12/08/2017 12:15PM

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That's a big reason Notre Dame doesn't have to join a conference... -- Old Line Hokie 12/05/2017 11:23AM

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No disrespect meant, but you 2 Notre Dame guys talking -- Maroon Doom 12/05/2017 05:42AM

No disrespect meant, but didn't the networks pay to create them? -- TerryD 12/05/2017 07:55AM

When you have 14 teams in a league. -- Maroon Doom 12/05/2017 7:22PM

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He makes good points, as do you, but

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