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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 15 minutes ago
Yet you ignore the article on Augie Conte because it doesn't
fit your premise.

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 18 minutes ago
LOL- you are the poster child for that concept...oh the hypocrisy!

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posted in the thread Brett McMurphy weighs in on Big XII Expansion by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 19 minutes ago
It takes 3 votes to block expansion...should set up interesting dynamics.
will 3 of the have-nots band together to leverage certain outcomes?

does losing one or more of these votes (expansion/GoR extension) reduce the penalties for someone wanting to leave the Big 12?

one of the strengths of the Maryland argument against paying the full $50K to the ACC was that the penalty passed over their objection.

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posted in the thread Pro golf watch 7/28 - 7/31 by MDHokieFan5 on the Virginia Tech Olympic Sports 19 minutes ago
Made cuts for both Scott Vincent and Drew Weaver this week.
Vincent is 4 back in T15 on the Mackenzie Tour. Weaver is T48 on the WCT.

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 20 minutes ago
Word games

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 29 minutes ago
Is this a spellcheck incident? Hillary instead of Hilgart?
Or are you attempting to hijack the thread?

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posted in the thread ISU AD says no expansion without an extension of GoR by goldendomer on the Conference Realignment Board 32 minutes ago
A little more...pretty obvious where the bloggers are getting their info
as has been openly speculated.

ISU AD confirms that Big 12 was completely blindsided by the ACC's move, i.e., "we were told...". Unlikely that the Big 12 based that belief on internet rumors, rather the bloggers were taking their cue from Big 12 sources. Thus guys like the Dude were blindsided as well.

So did Swoff actually "ninja" these guys?

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posted in the thread Brett McMurphy weighs in on Big XII Expansion by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 46 minutes ago
Current contract resolved 12/10 issue; Chuck can thank Wasserman for that
He negotiated the provision for the Big 12 so they can add anyone they want at the current per team payout.

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 53 minutes ago
Or it could be that simple. Occam's Razor...

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 56 minutes ago
People don't want information, they want affirmation...

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 2 hours ago
Could be anything. That's my point. Anecdotes from players are good, but
only part of the story.

I always go into a new job busting my butt to impress the new boss too.

But to filter it down to 'Gentry's methods are outdated' or 'VT S&C was regressing' is a little too oversimplified.

It's probably a combination any number of things, some of which which have already been pointed out pretty well by EddieVT, Mercury, and Manbearpig.

There's a bunch of context here: FB staff / S&C staff / player / situation, none of which operate in isolation

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posted in the thread ISU AD says no expansion without an extension of GoR by goldendomer on the Conference Realignment Board 3 hours ago
Can't disagree.

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 3 hours ago
Sorry, Maryland screwed themselves
The Big 10 just gave them a life jacket.

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posted in the thread Brett McMurphy weighs in on Big XII Expansion by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 5 hours ago
"Gonna" "wanna". Please stop. You're supposed to be a journalist.

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 5 hours ago
Again: Fuente, players, recruits, & these two free articles say otherwise--
Players say there is more of a focus on conditioning with the new S&C staff than there was before. Recruits have also said that current players have told them the same thing. Fuente said that wasn't a knock on the old way of doing things but that it is a requirement of his system and just the general landscape of NCAAF now.

Here is a free TSL article titled "Ben Hilgart Changing Focus of Offseason Strength and Conditioning Program for Virginia Tech" which says "Hilgart has redone the entire program, tailoring it to fit Fuente’s fast-paced offense."
http://virginiatech.sportswar.com/article/2016/07/20/ben-hilgart-changing-focus-offseason-strength-conditioning-program-virginia-tech/

Here is a 247 article that says exactly that and also explains how the "methods, concepts, and expectations" are different this year as well.
http://virginiatech.247sports.com/Article/Hard-Smart-and-Tough-Ben-Hilgarts-Impact-on-Virginia-Tech-43931585

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posted in the thread Brett McMurphy weighs in on Big XII Expansion by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 6 hours ago
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posted in the thread Brett McMurphy weighs in on Big XII Expansion by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 6 hours ago
I found this quote interesting:
"Others have told me they wanna add as many teams as possible because the way the contract is written."

It's been stated repeated on this board that at present, the Big 12 is getting paid for 12 teams even though it has 10. So adding 2 more teams with make it a smaller payout per school, a disincentive to expand. But this quote sounds like it could be 14, 16, or more. I wonder if they blow everything up and become the first superconference (I'll define that as 16 or more teams.)
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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 7 hours ago
And BTW, why do ACC apologists feel Maryland's money problems reflect well
on the league? The single most important stream of revenue comes from schools' respective leagues. It's where all the TV and bowl money comes from. Throwing it out there that Maryland was broke in no way, shape, or form reflects well on the ACC? That's especially true now that Maryland athletics are sending money back to the school after only a few years in the B1G.

And another primary revenue generator is football matchups that sell tickets. Wouldn't it have been nice for Maryland is Virginia Tech played there more than once a generation? VT football games make a ton of dough for schools like Duke and carolina every other season. Heck, I've been to a number of VT games in Atlanta and Virginia Tech is one of the toughest tickets at GT every other season. Anyhow, Maryland's now raking it in with sell outs when they play Michigan, OSU, and PSU regularly.

The ACC failed to afford them regular matchups with schools that could actually sell tickets in their venue.

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 7 hours ago
And the ACC isn't a valuable property?
So ESPN will take a total freaking gamble on a one school network, something that is quite suspect from the get go, and it wouldn't on an entire league? A league that includes a ton of valuable properties, including FSU football and Duke and Carolina basketball. All three alone are of comparable value to anything Texas U provides.

And BTW, Texas has an out of the LHN at some point. Been discussed here. And furthermore, the LHN doesn't prevent them from joining another league necessarily. they could work something out and keep their network while competing in the B1G, Pac12, or ACC for that matter. So if Texas does join the B1G, something I think it probably at this point, then they can keep their home game and allow the B1G and Fox to show their road games. A Grundy Law grad could work up such a contract.

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 8 hours ago
Coversations for sure, but Swoff himself said he and Jordan made the call.
That at least tells you that ESPN was somewhat open to conference networks back then. Why would they not be?

And again, you can't just write off the Longhorn Network thing so easily. It is a difference situation, but ESPN sunk a ton of dough in that venture/gamble. An ACC Network was a relative safe bet at the time from their perspective. If ESPN felt one single school could carry a 24/7 channel, they surely felt an entire league could.

ESPN could have built one central studio, as they did for Texas, and required each ACC school to jump on board. They could have then worked out some sort of agreement to recover their costs and split the rest accordingly.

IN what universe was the LHN a safer bet than an ACCNetwork for ESPN? Please tell me. Swoff of Co have conditioned you guys to think the ACC schools are of little more value than those from the CUSA.

Howabout the ACC do as some in this thread have suggested and grow a set? How about they tell ESPN to take a hike and allow NBC to start broadcasting college sports up and down the East Coast. Howabout they challenge ESPN to provide more compelling matchups than Duke versus UNC when people are snowed in in February? What would ESPN roll out there? A Bama versus UGA bball game? Or would they roll out Texas versus Arkansas? Or would ESPN be forced to fork over another billion dollars to the NBA to show Memphis versus Portland?

The ACC had some leverage, but they failed to capitalize on it. Heck, it's pretty clear to me that ESPN got ACC programming so cheap that it's devalued the product in their eyes. Anyone in the sales game would recognize the reality of such situations. Just watch some ESPN and you will see that the ACC is the red headed step child to them, even when the ACC's on the field performance doesn't deserve it.

aGain, I'm sure the ESPN execs like doing business with swofford and Co and they probably do share cocktails with him at his beach house. But I bet they had to change their shorts after negotiating with guys like Dulaney or Sleve, or guys form the University of Texas for that matter.

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 8 hours ago
So what did they do so right?
Tell me all the things the ACC leadership have pulled off that nobody else in the industry could have accomplished. Tell me how their decision making has been working out for them?

Tell me how they've one upped everyone else. And they really haven't beaten out the Big12. The Big12 schools still make more money from TV and bowls than the ACC. The ten Big12 schools split a $40 million check from their anchor bowl while the 14.5 ACC schools are splitting $27 million from theirs.

And MANY of the Big12 schools have been quite fine with the status quo. Texas got over on ESPN pretty good. Why couldn't the ACC pull off such a coup? Tell me what they've got right?

Embarrassingly, two of their 3 best moves since the expansion wars began they totally lucked into. They never wanted VT and most of them didn't want Louisville. They lucked into VT and FSU showed Greensboro who was boss with Louisville.

So what have they done correctly since 2009? How well is all of that extending of the ESPN contract going to pay off? Specifics please.

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posted in the thread Thoughts on the new NCAA live contact rules by bigbadbird on the Virginia Tech Football Board 8 hours ago
Like boxing, even if the sport declines...
there will always be people A) willing to play it & B) willing to watch it.

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 8 hours ago
Just keep giving it ALL to ESPN and be their punching bags every saturday?

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posted in the thread Travel to South Bend, IN by wansapana on the Virginia Tech Football Board 8 hours ago
In 2000, my wife and I rode the Amtrak Crescent fm Charlottesville to ...
... New Orleans for the Championship game that year. We came home via the City of New Orleans to Chicago. Had an all day layover in Chicago so we went to the Natural History Museum, then caught the Cardinal back to Charlottesville.

Probably lucky, but we had no delays on any leg of the trip. We also had sleeping cars on each leg also. Actually we did have a builtin delay. Remember that was the Y2K scare. So Amtrack had every train it operates to shut down about 15 minutes before midnight where ever the train happened to be, even in the middle of no where, which we were. Stayed shut down until some time after midnight to make sure all the computers were still working like they were supposed to.

So we were dead stopped in the middle of no where, sipping champagne watching the New Year come in, in the train's dinning car.

It got to be a little pricey, but I figured a championship game wasn't going to come around too often. VT isn't Alabama.

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posted in the thread Strength & Conditioning coach Ben Hilgart really paying off by Ricky LaBlue on the Virginia Tech Football Board 8 hours ago
You are helping me make my argument, do you realize?
"He gets so fixed on it that frequently walks right into blocks and gets blown up because he's not aware enough of how a given blocking scheme is going to come at him"

Frankly, this is the problem. He plays with such tunnel vision that he virtually ignores everything else that is going on. He gets fixated on whatever he thinks he needs to do that he constantly loses track of the RB or QB. A good linebacker needs to be aware of his surroundings as well as adjust for any blocking schemes.

Yes, he is often the focus of blocking schemes, but because opposing teams have clearly identified him as the weak link on the run defense. Much of the blocking issues are self-inflicted as he typically runs up to the OL at the beginning of each play and gets tangled up with a blocker long before it is even evident where the RB will come through the line.

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posted in the thread Bitter blog - Mailbag: What's success for ACC's 1st-year coaches? by Andy Bitter on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
Venue mostly. Tix were EASY to come by in 2010 in Atlanta.
It's just going to be a REALLY REALLY cool event/weekend. Some great early season fun. And yes, I realize that I'll be watching the game on Collosus the whole time, but I will enjoy telling grandkids about doing so, especially if VT wins.

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posted in the thread Mike Aresco and AAC preparing to lose members. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
Wouldn't be surprised at all to see ODU and ECU in the Power 4 opening up
Virginia and North Carolina to Conference that are itching to do so

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
Yes, because they wanted into the south via the ACC. They failed.

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
WVU? That's it? All this negativity and all you can come up with is
They should have added WVU instead of Syracuse.

No, the ACC should not have simply made more money for Maryland. Everyone was playing under the same rules and Maryland ran their program into the ground. That's not the ACC's fault. No other school was in that mess that Maryland made for themselves. It was not the lack of money from the ACC that created that problem in College Park. I suggest you go back and read the articles written about the process on the Maryland side. It sheds a lot of light on why they made this decision.

I think it's clear now that your beef is with forces outside of the ACC's control. You have to deal with reality and given the reality the ACC did well. Not perfect but a long way from the picture you paint.


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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
HC at E&H

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
Excited about Hilgart, but...
Don't think that methods are very different between him and gentry. I live out of state now and have become friends with a S&C coach at a local school. He informed me that from what he knows about both men, their methods aren't that different, in terms of their workouts. What he brings though is an updated attitude, energy, and approach with the kids. While I'm over the moon about this freshness, don't be fooled that the new workouts are all that different.

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posted in the thread Travel to South Bend, IN by wansapana on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
Re: Travel to South Bend, IN
The wife and I are going to try the Amtrak option and have booked a "Superliner Roomette" both ways for sleeping. My biggest concern is one of yours...getting back to the station after the game. Have done some research and likely will have to walk outside the one-way post game traffic pattern and catch either a taxi or pre-arranged Uber. Haven't worked that part out completely yet. Plan to take minimal luggage and understand it can be stored at the station for a fee.

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
The landscape was much different for the long horn network
The big ten had a conference network with fox.
The pac 10 was going with fox too.
You can bet that ESPN knew there was expansion talk going on with the pac10 well in advance of when it became public knowledge.
The thing ESPN was probably angling for was to keep Texas as an ESPN property and in the process the league.
In that regard it did what ESPN wanted.

That is the reason it is apples and oranges. It has nothing to do with their willingness to do a network.


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started a new thread on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
Brett McMurphy weighs in on Big XII Expansion
He's predicting Houston and Cincinnati.

Some interesting point he makes include the explanation that the split rights between Fox and ESPN for the Big XII media content limits the ability for a conference network. One of them would have to buy out the other, and neither Fox nor ESPN have interest in doing this.

He also thinks it is very hard to predict how this will play out because the Presidents of the Big XII literally haven't decided on their criteria to evaluate any candidates.

It's an interesting interview.

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posted in the thread ISU AD says no expansion without an extension of GoR by goldendomer on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
Re: Classic power move attempt from a non power school
or they want the networks in their corner

they are threatening to do to the big 12 what the big 12 is doing to the networks

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
Do you really believe there was not conversations
Do you really think there was not conversations by wasserman with ESPN?

You do know they have consulted on the media rights for MANY conferences and professional leagues world wide. They probably know the landscape better than us both then and now.

Do I agree with everything the acc has done. No.

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posted in the thread ISU AD says no expansion without an extension of GoR by goldendomer on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
No they won't
They MIGHT be able to wiggle a few into the P4 - and even then don't forget that there is reason the "have nots" are the "have nots"; they don't have the political clout or financial resources of the "haves". Don't think the "haves" also won't put pressure on the politicians to make things come out mostly the way they want it.

Regardless, once the chairs are filled, there will not be some P4.2 that will be given (or even be capable of) a shot at the pot of gold.

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posted in the thread Bitter blog - Mailbag: What's success for ACC's 1st-year coaches? by Andy Bitter on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
Correct ... and hoping VT can get a home and away with VOLs in future.

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
Ask yourself WHY ESPN did that deal
It had nothing to do with the network itself or the money they made on that network. It was because they locked up a valuable property from going to another conference.

They want to keep Texas on the ESPN side of the inventory board.

Apples and oranges.

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
Prolly combinations of standing on shoulders of giants, catch-up, & better
technology and situations. Gentry one of those giants for years. He's been fulfilled, but maybe not Hilgart. Thus, he remains passionate about his work which is infectious to players and staff around him. Also, he has the environment and tools needed. This attracts success.
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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
Several players also told 247 the same thing back during the spring. (free)

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
Re: You forgot Newsome
Yeah him too, but I was speaking more about strength and conditioning. Where is he now? I I heard Emory and Henry?

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posted in the thread Strength & Conditioning coach Ben Hilgart really paying off by Ricky LaBlue on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
SIR- Evans shrinks an inch and puts on a few lbs.

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
Well okay then. Solid stuff!

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posted in the thread Thoughts on the new NCAA live contact rules by bigbadbird on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
As to spectators, Nascar with driving lanes and less body work. :-)

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
You forgot Newsome
Sort of a factor

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
Re: Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good?
Regressed. Complacency. A business associate of mine has a kid on the team that was there under Coach Gentry, and per the player, the intensity of workouts is "3 times" now compared to what it was earlier. Coach Gentry was great in his day, but I think most would agree that complacency and lack of urgency set in at some point. Looking back, would this explain our OL play? I think so. Just my opinion

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posted in the thread Did our weight program regress under Gentry or is the new guy that good? by uvabasher on the Virginia Tech Football Board 1 day ago
^^^buzzkill^^
ActI ally best shape ever 3 yrs ago doin kickboxing. Then MRSA and heart probs. But yeah!!#

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
ESPN should've felt the pressure to keep the ACC under its umbrella too.
No way around it, ACC negotiators have done a horrible job when working out these deals. They have way undervalued this league. Everyone knew FSU, Clemson, and Miami would find their ways back to championship level teams soon enough. It WAS quite predictable. And with that considered, the ACC should have at least negotiated a shorter deal. If ESPN balked, the ACC should have done something innovative for a change. You don't see these other leagues, even the Big12, begin led around by ESPN with a chain.

And despite what they tell us about Skipper and Swoford sipping cocktails by the beach together, anyone who watches would realize that ESPN treats the ACC like its whipping dog anyhow.

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posted in the thread Teel Article about the Stealth lead up to ACC Network. by HOO86 on the Conference Realignment Board 1 day ago
A few thoughts.
I. Pitt and Cuse's successes came from decades ago. I'll take flag ship state universities over city centric commuter schools all day. And we're just not so sure how much ESPN wanted Pitt and Cuse. It was said that UCONN was under consideration back then too, but BC balked. If I were Swofford and Co, I would have told BC reps to kick rocks back then. Pitt and WVU were the better options. I would have given the ACC a better grade for those. Instead, they added Pitt and Cuse. A+ additions would have been WVU and ND. Perhaps, better negotiating could have made it happen. Perhaps adding ND's 5 games would have made it unnecessary to add more than one additional school?

II. What the ACC could have done to help Maryland's financial circumstances was to provide them more money. Pretty cut and dry if you ask me. And yes, the ACC should have been tuned into what was happening at Maryland more. Their sole job is to run this conference. They deserve a poor grade for losing a charter member of the league. PERIOD.
Thinking more critically, is there any inherent reason the B1G schools should be making a bizzilion dollars more than ACC schools from sports? ACC schools are in growing states with more prestigious Us. The ACC has nearly as much football and basketball success as the B1G too. Sorry, Maryland's leaving the league for a bizzilion more dollars falls on ACC leadership.

III. West By God.

IV. Beating the Big12 for ND is no great coup. And yes, the ACC was strongarmed into beating the Big12 to the punch.

V. There's a precedence of conferences penalizing programs, including the ACC. But we all knew UNC would face none of that. And we all know why.

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