How many times have we seen them stop and talk with Buzz or other coaches after they beat us down? The few times we win against them they just do the hand shake and move on. I detest both of them and am tired of seeing their faces. They both think they are above the rest of the ACC and their actions make me sick. They are not basketball Gods. K wanted to beat us badly last night because he didn't want us in the ACC period. Duke and Carolina voted no to accept expansion teams. They still control the ACC or make a damn good effort to do so.