I'd like to know what these crybabies did in the off-season helping -- TechMomof2 08/12/2018 5:06PM
Really a shame on a few levels IMO -- HokieHutch 08/10/2018 2:59PM
By chance were you talking about the helmet to helmet rule? -- DarylS 08/10/2018 1:52PM
Take your pick ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 2:07PM
I will take a knee on this one -- DarylS 08/10/2018 2:13PM
I agree, they still haven't gotten a handle on -- hoosnowahokie 08/10/2018 12:11PM
Not at all. I tune in for fantasy football mostly. I don't care what -- RhinoVT 08/10/2018 11:48AM
I only watch games with Hokies. -- EDGEMAN 08/10/2018 11:46AM
Ditto ** -- AZHokie59 08/10/2018 2:13PM
That's me as well. I don't have an NFL team, just follow my Hokie alums. ** -- Spud 08/10/2018 12:09PM
Hard Knocks.... fascinating to watch IMHO -- banishedtothelounge 08/10/2018 11:43AM
Same stuff every season. Hard Knocks is boring now, IMO ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 11:45AM
It's entertainment but it's not entertaining - i prefer watching college ** -- bigbadbird 08/10/2018 11:38AM
It’s depressing. ** -- RoswellGAHokie 08/10/2018 11:26AM
Keep emotions out and it's a great debate topic. Free speech vs. free -- Bburg Native 08/10/2018 11:03AM
Yes, everyone has free speech, but while at work your boss may -- fordham 08/10/2018 3:46PM
Unless they're party to a CBA. ** -- Hokie Bird 94 08/10/2018 8:56PM
Only robots can debate without emotion ** -- OrlandoHokie 08/10/2018 11:35AM
You don't have a "right" to protest at work. ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 11:13AM
Sure you do -- JoesterVT 08/10/2018 11:18AM
Nice subtle dig not including soccer as a sport ** -- HokieAl 08/10/2018 11:30AM
You misunderstand what a "right" is. A right is protected by law. Sure you -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 11:21AM
Not correct ** -- JoesterVT 08/10/2018 11:46AM
.** -- Beerman 08/10/2018 11:42AM
Wrong. The "right" to free speech is a limited right. The "right" is -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 11:44AM
They're all limited rights -- Beerman 08/10/2018 11:45AM
MIght as well bang my head against the wall ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 11:52AM
But that's the point -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:02PM
Your first two sentences are contradictory: -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:04PM
No ... they are not -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:06PM
From a strictly legal sense, that is correct -- Tafkam Hokie 08/10/2018 12:50PM
They also cannot be cut or blackballed, etc, at the direction of the gov't ** -- VTSnake 08/10/2018 12:14PM
NFL Owners aren't listening to Trump. That's not the issue -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:16PM
I agree with the possible exception of Kaep -- VTSnake 08/10/2018 12:27PM
I doubt seriously that it's the case -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:31PM
So jail time is the deciding factor? LOL ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:08PM
I'm curious as to your definition of rights -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:14PM
I made it pretty clear above. A "right" is protected by law. I.e., if -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:17PM
Actually, a Right is something inherent to an individual's existence. -- Hokie CPA 08/10/2018 12:22PM
Exactly. Unalienable rights is the term. Gov. doesn't grant anything ** -- RTFC 08/10/2018 4:13PM
Please lay out for me the inalienable rights that are not established by -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 4:33PM
Actually this is covered directly by Amendment 9 -- RTFC 08/10/2018 5:11PM
Right, so the govt protects them. ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 9:43PM
No, by reserving them, the people protect them from government intrusion. ** -- RTFC 08/12/2018 12:08PM
The right of the people to XYZ shall not be infringed... -- RTFC 08/10/2018 4:45PM
It is PROTECTED by the govt. ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:23PM
Not always. You cannot say whatever you like and be free of consequences. -- Hokie CPA 08/10/2018 12:33PM
They have no mandate to protect it, but they do protect it. If the speech -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:36PM
You have a fundamentally incorrect view on rights -- VTSnake 08/10/2018 12:40PM
Ok pal. If you say so. -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:42PM
I should have been clearer -- VTSnake 08/10/2018 12:58PM
Ok, what is "your right to free speech"? That is the question we are -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 1:02PM
Incorrect -- VTSnake 08/10/2018 12:31PM
Yes. And that is a fundamental difference between the US and most of the -- Tafkam Hokie 08/10/2018 12:54PM
Yes. That's one of the jobs of gov't. To protect our rights -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:29PM
Huh? The government doesn't protect rights given by a creator. ** -- NokieHokie 08/10/2018 12:33PM
Did you skip 8th grade civics? -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:37PM
No. The bill of rights was to limit the intrusion of gov't. Nothing to do -- NokieHokie 08/10/2018 12:40PM
The government protects our right -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:44PM
Okay. Still has nothing do with a creator. ** -- NokieHokie 08/10/2018 12:56PM
Declaration of Independence references inalienable rights -- Tafkam Hokie 08/10/2018 1:42PM
So people who don't believe in a creator have no rights then? ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:32PM
You came from somewhere. If you don't believe in God (or equivalent) then -- Hokie CPA 08/10/2018 12:36PM
Those broad categories mean nothing. The right to "defend yourself" as you -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:40PM
As with all things, it depends. -- Hokie CPA 08/10/2018 12:58PM
LOL. Paraphrasing: "You have the right to do it on private property -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 1:08PM
No... it means the government can't come in and bust up your little -- Hokie CPA 08/10/2018 1:15PM
Stick to accounting. The law ain't your thing. ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 2:08PM
So then free speech is not a right? -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:19PM
It means the gov't can't jail you for speaking out against the gov't. ** -- NokieHokie 08/10/2018 12:34PM
Unlimited free speech? No, you don't have that. Even political speech -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:26PM
So do you think that when you're at work you lose your rights? -- VTSnake 08/10/2018 11:36AM
I think you just proved Moderate’s point. ** -- RoswellGAHokie 08/10/2018 11:41AM
I don't see how -- VTSnake 08/10/2018 11:51AM
The government cannot take away a right? Really? -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:01PM
Point taken ** -- VTSnake 08/10/2018 12:04PM
Yep - you're still agreeing with Moderate's point. ** -- Hokie360 08/10/2018 11:57AM
Ok, what am I missing? -- VTSnake 08/10/2018 11:59AM
You have a right to express your political opinions, such as holding a -- Hokie360 08/10/2018 12:17PM
A right is given by the government, not you employer. -- VTSnake 08/10/2018 12:24PM
Nope -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:28PM
So if the govt does not protect it, you'd still call it a right? -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:31PM
It's one that we've given up. -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:36PM
If you've given it up, then you no longer have that right! -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:46PM
You are mixing up the ability to perform an action in society -- RTFC 08/10/2018 4:29PM
You are equating right with "ability" ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 9:45PM
Lol -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:51PM
Unfortunately the semantics DO matter -- Beerman 08/10/2018 12:56PM
Wait? This whole time u've been talking about something other than reality? ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 12:54PM
This has all been needlessly wordy :) -- Beerman 08/10/2018 1:10PM
Ugh ** -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 2:29PM
Yep, as far as right to free speech goes. You maintain your right to -- ModerateHokie 08/10/2018 11:45AM
Yep. Drive to your office on Monday morning, and protest in the parking lot -- HWA 08/10/2018 11:18AM
Haven’t watched an NFL game in 5 years. ** -- CPRVHokie 08/10/2018 11:03AM
Impressive, I'm not sure I've watched a full game in 5-10 years, -- HortHokie 08/10/2018 11:34AM
Out of curiosity, what made you stop? -- dans93 08/10/2018 11:33AM
I slowly moved away because I didn't relate -- HokieHutch 08/10/2018 3:09PM
It’s boring. ** -- CPRVHokie 08/10/2018 12:50PM
Not CPRV, but my input as I too watch a LOT less NFL than I used to. -- Late 80s Hokie 08/10/2018 12:06PM
It could be a combination of issues. -- TabbHokie 08/10/2018 11:48AM