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ChazB

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Per request...


So on the pretense about talking about salesmanship of Dabo and MY

You just went back to same ole, same ole , not germaine to the topic, criticisms of this coach, the former coach and the AD, some of which may be valid and some not.

Please Read to the end....

But one thing you said is very interesting and I would like to know more from your perspective. You said,

"BUT where Coach Fuente failed has been in talent identification: HS network building -recruitment - capture and retention of talent. Too many spent ( read wasted) scholarships for a program deeming itself as 'the best development program in the country'. " What would success in the above specific areas looked like to you?

Top in-state & surrounding (targeted) states ( NC, SC, GA) talent would choose VT. This can be measured in the top 25 recruits from each of theses & establishing an annual target %. Highest being in VA. To date that grade would be quite low. Or said another way, why are are the in-state High School Coaches who sing Coach Fuente's praise on taking care of their kids. Can tell you there's a number of them in NC who don't have Fuente on their speed dial. And the Texas recruiting is merely not sustainable.

What is the standard you are using to say the coach has failed?

One of highest transfer portal rates in ACC, annual instability under center,( from a QB whisper) starters across various positions leaving the program either early or transferring out. Overall QB have regressed receivers have been flashes with long periods of inadequacy.

On positive side, Shibest has done solid job with punting & kickers, H-backs have been solid & Vice developed an o-line his way & it worked great last season. DB Coach Mitchell did a great job developing CB Farley, Fork Union & Vice did an awesome job developing OT Darrisaw. Coach Terriinick is the reason DT Williams transferred into the program.

And if I may, consider what success to look like means the indentical resources or at least the same comparative advantages and disadvantages...

Not being cute but life's isn't fair, some folks have more, most have less than you...success is figuring out how to win with cards you hold & only toss a few otherwise you never build a culture other than transit.

Perception of an individual are made up of many factors. what you see on TV, hear from others, read & hear on the radio, how they interact with others, but mine in this case are from 1:1 interactions. I stand firm in what I wrote & said. Peace be with you.

Let's Go... Hokies!!!
Beat those Tarholes!

(In response to this post by VTCALS72)

Posted: 05/19/2021 at 9:16PM



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CMY vs. CJF -- 1hokies1 05/18/2021 7:03PM
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  Well said ** -- 85vthokie_cincy 05/20/2021 2:57PM
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  It is arrogance (CJF) vs humility (CMY) -- VT ChemE 1986 05/19/2021 10:05AM
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  Agreed. However - I think it points to something -- Rationalist 05/19/2021 3:43PM
  And 20-21 is a wash -- Hokie1992 05/19/2021 5:47PM
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  Shade of grey wherever I go -- Hokie1992 05/20/2021 08:37AM
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  Think Dabo Swinney as a great example. ** -- Bburg Mac 05/19/2021 12:03PM
  Of a salesman? yes he is -- VTCALS72 05/19/2021 12:12PM
  Dabo also pays them over a million each ** -- uvabasher 05/19/2021 10:21PM
  Per request... -- ChazB 05/19/2021 9:16PM
  So if I read you right -- VTCALS72 05/20/2021 08:46AM
  What a guy, yep one of those who want -- VTCALS72 05/20/2021 6:44PM
  Harvin was above VT’s pay scale. -- RJHokie 05/20/2021 09:19AM
  Maybe, but I doubt it. -- RJHokie 05/20/2021 09:29AM
  Agree there! ** -- RJHokie 05/20/2021 09:36AM
  Perhaps, but Dabo's winning results are clear. -- Bburg Mac 05/19/2021 12:24PM
  The one thing I am positive about is.. -- Jeffroww 05/19/2021 07:36AM
  Truth Jeffroww ** -- Hokie1992 05/19/2021 8:36PM
  Ah, I see ** -- typed by ben 05/19/2021 1:09PM
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  You lost me at "CJF is a great coach" -- hokiewasp 05/18/2021 10:54PM
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  Yeah, Cornelsen probably is the best for the amount we pay. -- Chris Coleman  05/19/2021 12:20PM
  Offensive Coordinator -- charlesf 05/20/2021 10:47AM
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  Priorities ** -- ChazB 05/19/2021 5:11PM
  If FU felt that coach”x” would drastically -- VT757to276 05/19/2021 10:39AM
  I agree, but how many do that? Dabo did. And that's it. -- Chris Coleman  05/19/2021 12:22PM
  What would you do..... -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 11:28AM
  That is one story.. -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 8:30PM
  You could both acknowledge mistakes were made -- Tombo 05/19/2021 1:14PM
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  Got it..... -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 11:52AM
  Relative to the competition... and relative to results... -- Gobbler Guru 05/19/2021 10:39AM
  Why is he going to choose his Illinois State boys? -- Chris Coleman  05/19/2021 12:02PM
  Maybe they were getting shut out too? ** -- Nelsonia Hokie 05/19/2021 7:59PM
  Maybe they were getting shut out too? ** -- Nelsonia Hokie 05/19/2021 7:59PM
  Yep, no doubt. -- Chris Coleman  05/19/2021 1:59PM
  You raise valid observations ...... -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 10:44AM
  THIS! A must read for all ** -- VT ChemE 1986 05/19/2021 10:08AM
  Man, the hatred for Fuente runs deep with some fans. -- Atlee Hokie 05/19/2021 09:46AM
  Yes, very deep and money is certainly not the issue. -- brownsummithokie 05/20/2021 12:43AM
  I hate to break it to you.. -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 9:12PM
  I'm not sure how this is a reply to my post ** -- Tombo 05/19/2021 10:17PM
  Then you need to....... -- 2hhoop3 05/19/2021 10:22PM
  I'd be less bothered by it if he was making 1.5 million -- typed by ben 05/19/2021 9:10PM
  Until the next guy comes in and is hated -- fordham 05/19/2021 10:49AM
  Well stated. ** -- RJHokie 05/19/2021 10:13AM

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