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RE: Florida deputy. I don’t know what was going through his head... -- HokieDiver 02/27/2018 07:30AM
Criticizing him for not doing his job is fair. Projecting what you would -- Tafkam Hokie 02/27/2018 4:14PM I was a Sheriffs Deputy for just shy of a decade. The SRO failed his duty. -- Naelbis 02/27/2018 5:33PM So you know what his training was? What the department's strategy was? ** -- 48zip 02/28/2018 09:54AM Neither of those matter. The rule is "run to the gunfire and engage".. -- Naelbis 02/28/2018 09:59AM A couple of things. -- 48zip 02/28/2018 10:36AM Just sounds like a coward to me. -- YardBird 02/27/2018 12:02PM + Infinite ** -- darnellm 02/27/2018 12:07PM I saved someone from committing Suicide, so YES I'd answer the bell -- darnellm 02/27/2018 11:25AM Delete** -- darnellm 02/27/2018 11:22AM This is my big takeaway. I've been involved in multiple workplace -- ElbertoHokie 02/27/2018 09:44AM Totally agree. I’d only add that I believe a person may react heroically -- Hoakie82 02/27/2018 11:06AM The Mighty Mighty Bosstones agree ** -- Late 80s Hokie 02/27/2018 11:39AM That’s the impression that I get. ** -- Hoakie82 02/27/2018 12:36PM Sorry, it was his job and he was the only one that could actually -- fordham 02/27/2018 09:14AM Agree but he worked for the Sheriff’s Dept. Not the Police force. -- Femoyer Hokie 02/27/2018 12:58PM I asked my cop buddy about this. -- Hurley09 02/27/2018 09:30AM Why would somebody guarding a school not have "active shooter training"? ** -- HokieNoVA 02/27/2018 11:34AM Because it's expensive as crap, and my bet is those guys are just rotated. ** -- reestuart 02/27/2018 12:15PM Firefighter on a call: "I can't go in there, the building is on fire." -- J-Dub 02/27/2018 08:59AM 🔥 And it’s really hot. 🔥 ** -- YardBird 02/27/2018 12:12PM Fire/EMS do NOT go in where there is an active shooter. ** -- 48zip 02/27/2018 09:14AM Of course not. Jdub's post doesn't say shooter. Fireman does have a hose. -- RTFC 02/27/2018 09:46AM That's why the comparison is weak. Apples and oranges. -- 48zip 02/27/2018 09:51AM They are both dangerous jobs - and each person is supposed to be trained -- RTFC 02/27/2018 10:02AM Understood and agry. But, "I can't go in there, bldg is on fire"? -- 48zip 02/27/2018 10:15AM I think J-Dub was trying to make the point about how ridiculous... -- MP4VT2004 02/27/2018 12:33PM But there is a huge difference. Fires don't shoot back. and.... -- 48zip 02/27/2018 12:43PM Fires sometimes explode, even the ones that don't have gas in the bldg. -- EDGEMAN 02/27/2018 1:07PM Absolutely no question. ** -- 48zip 02/27/2018 1:10PM It is apples and oranges -- TomTurkey 02/27/2018 09:59AM Fire/ems are not carrying a very capable weapon on them, cops do ** -- fordham 02/27/2018 09:15AM I was commenting on the prior post (not really a comparison) -- 48zip 02/27/2018 09:18AM Wasn't comparing the 2 situations, they are obviously very different. -- J-Dub 02/27/2018 10:47AM Gotcha. My bad. But....if he thought the shooter was outside...... -- 48zip 02/27/2018 11:10AM Saw where he is saying that he thought the shooting was going on outside -- reestuart 02/27/2018 12:38PM So, thrown under bus and resigned...why? -- TomTurkey 02/27/2018 12:02PM I agree. But look at the Sheriff. He's busy complimenting himself. -- 48zip 02/27/2018 12:18PM Will be interesting as more is known -- TomTurkey 02/27/2018 12:54PM For these mass shooter people usually any actual capable resistance is -- fordham 02/27/2018 09:25AM I remember when police switched from .38 to 9 mm -- TomTurkey 02/27/2018 09:22AM This is why I prefer Military Vets & Law Enforcement Vets over arming -- TabbHokie 02/27/2018 08:27AM That would be optimal, but... -- EDGEMAN 02/27/2018 11:06AM And that would be suboptimal -- Beerman 02/27/2018 11:17AM Who says they will leave their weapon unsecured. -- EDGEMAN 02/27/2018 11:33AM Schools are also supposed to be locked and 'secure'. -- reestuart 02/27/2018 12:21PM Tough to do during a fire drill. -- 48zip 02/27/2018 12:33PM Follow up. I did just read that during a "code red", students are told -- 48zip 02/28/2018 12:47PM Yeah, but it wasn't a fire drill. Somebody let this guy in, and he set off -- reestuart 02/27/2018 12:37PM Scenarios I hear are secured until a situation arises -- TomTurkey 02/27/2018 12:06PM People are stupid. It happens. -- Beerman 02/27/2018 11:41AM While, I don’t think arming teachers is the solution, I do think it’d be -- Hoakie82 02/27/2018 10:05AM WE were talking about the deputy and his job. You went TOS. I'm out. ** -- RTFC 02/27/2018 3:53PM If people insist on using armed policemen, use the SWAT force instead of -- reestuart 02/27/2018 08:39AM Let's have SWAT members roaming the halls of every school -- VTSnake 02/27/2018 08:53AM I didn't say that. They shouldn't be inside the schools at all. -- reestuart 02/27/2018 08:55AM An ounce of prevention...shooter never gets inside -- TomTurkey 02/27/2018 09:15AM Key is keeping people out of schools that don't belong there. ** -- reestuart 02/27/2018 09:18AM Key...I edited for that ** -- TomTurkey 02/27/2018 09:20AM Seems misplaced. That was the Deputies job -- MEHOKIE 02/27/2018 08:01AM Question is, what was his training. I think everyone agrees that he needed -- reestuart 02/27/2018 08:16AM Ironic; most cops in news criticized for being trained to use deadly force ** -- WestyHokie 02/27/2018 08:38AM Not ironic at all. They're criticized for killing unarmed people -- VTSnake 02/27/2018 08:51AM You miss the point -- WestyHokie 02/27/2018 09:26AM You're making something binary when it's not at all -- VTSnake 02/27/2018 09:35AM Sound like me debating my cop family; has nothing to do with my post tho -- WestyHokie 02/27/2018 09:49AM Your argument is a false dichotomy. ** -- NokieHokie 02/27/2018 10:54AM Everyone is not agreeing. I'd like to know what his training was and did -- 48zip 02/27/2018 08:37AM He's told to go inside. What was he trained to do once he gets in there. -- reestuart 02/27/2018 08:38AM Oh, so you trust Isreal? Unless you were in the training, you don't know -- 48zip 02/27/2018 08:42AM No, I don't trust him a bit. I haven't come to a conclusion at all. -- reestuart 02/27/2018 08:45AM His job was to protect the security of the students and the school. If he -- 132863Hokie 02/27/2018 07:46AM That was also the job of the Broward County sheriff's department and... -- EDGEMAN 02/27/2018 11:12AM It's now up to 45 calls to the Broward Co. Sheriff's department. -- EDGEMAN 02/27/2018 1:09PM Shooter could have faced charges before massacre — had cops done their job -- EDGEMAN 02/27/2018 12:13PM Most resource officers are buddy, buddy with students. -- hokiehunter07 02/27/2018 09:50AM Well, that settles it! -- 48zip 02/27/2018 08:13AM I know that people were being murdered and injured and their only defense -- fordham 02/27/2018 09:17AM Sadly, hindsight is 20/20. IF (big if) he saw wounded outside and thought -- 48zip 02/27/2018 09:23AM And sadly with all the issues before it ever happened and all the warnings -- fordham 02/27/2018 09:27AM That was the biggest failure! -- EDGEMAN 02/27/2018 11:15AM Yep. ** -- 48zip 02/27/2018 09:38AM There was a story I read that said -- JoesterVT 02/27/2018 07:57AM So, why was he thrown under the bus? -- TomTurkey 02/27/2018 12:11PM The one guy was the only one there when it started, then 2 or 3 more showed -- fordham 02/27/2018 4:34PM But he was "following protocol" ** -- TomTurkey 02/27/2018 4:46PM Stinks the high heaven, IMO. ** -- reestuart 02/27/2018 12:59PM There were 3-4 of them. None went in. ** -- BobG 02/27/2018 07:57AM I am sure he thought he would respond appropriately. My point is... -- HokieDiver 02/27/2018 07:56AM
