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Stalling on bottom


this is the #1 change I'd like to see.

1. At a minimum, don't call it "stalling." The majority of times it's called, the bottom guy is not avoiding action, he's incapable of getting out. Most times it's called, the guy on the bottom is behind and will ultimately lose. He's not stalling, he's getting beat.
2. I think it's fine to reward the top wrestler for putting the bottom wrestler in that situation where he's incapable of getting out.
3. So, is it better to just change the riding time rules? Lots of options here. Don't make it a cumulative thing would be the first. Make it a per takedown thing? Take a guy down and just ride him for 30 (or whatever) seconds and you get a riding time point (or 2 or whatever)? Then at that time, return to neutral?


Posted: 03/11/2019 at 08:50AM


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  Stalling on bottom -- Pylons 03/11/2019 08:50AM
  Totally agree. -- HokieJay 03/11/2019 2:22PM
  There are a lot of ways to measure activity on bottom. -- GreenvilleVT 03/12/2019 09:30AM
  Very nice explanation. -- AirborneHokie96 03/12/2019 10:47AM
  Thanks. I spent a lot of time on bottom in my career. ** -- GreenvilleVT 03/12/2019 11:34AM
  I was a top guy myself -- AirborneHokie96 03/12/2019 11:46AM
  Watch out for those double legs. ** -- GreenvilleVT 03/12/2019 11:48AM
  You have to work to get to a base -- AirborneHokie96 03/11/2019 1:30PM
  How do you evaluate "working" -- Pylons 03/11/2019 1:44PM
  It's personal opinion and its subjective -- AirborneHokie96 03/11/2019 2:46PM
  So you feel you're able to gauge effort? -- Pylons 03/11/2019 5:09PM
  Yes and yes -- AirborneHokie96 03/11/2019 5:42PM
  Agree - effort and also willing to take risks -- MartyE 03/11/2019 8:04PM
  My issue was the 1 sided nature of calls -- Drake7hokie 03/11/2019 11:05AM
  So you'd advise a ref how? -- Pylons 03/11/2019 1:07PM
  Re: So you'd advise a ref how? -- Drake7hokie 03/11/2019 6:27PM
  Take the guesswork out, single boots, legal....double boots illegal. ** -- wasris 03/11/2019 1:11PM
  What is "double boots" -- Pylons 03/11/2019 1:15PM
  D-boots should be clear for any ref. No penalty, restart in ref. position. ** -- wasris 03/11/2019 1:27PM
  So, I'm a ref...tell me how d-boots is clear ** -- Pylons 03/11/2019 1:29PM
  Go to YouTube and you'll see. ** -- wasris 03/11/2019 1:43PM
  Lol...so you just don't have an answer? -- Pylons 03/11/2019 1:57PM
  Try Chris Perry's punishing leg ride!!! ** -- wasris 03/11/2019 2:02PM
  Jesse Dong was a really good rider who used to get his boots in -- AirborneHokie96 03/11/2019 2:58PM
  Eat at Moe's! ** -- Pylons 03/11/2019 2:03PM
  Having two boots should be a stalemate. -- Hokiefan94 03/11/2019 10:00AM
  I normally give a guy 10-14 seconds to work something with double boots -- AirborneHokie96 03/11/2019 1:32PM
  2 questions -- Pylons 03/11/2019 2:06PM
  Here is an example -- AirborneHokie96 03/11/2019 2:40PM
  Re: Here is an example -- Drake7hokie 03/11/2019 6:38PM
  I agree BUT to many referees allow a much longer ride. Question... -- wasris 03/11/2019 1:45PM
  You don't see it as much from a losing wrestler -- AirborneHokie96 03/11/2019 2:36PM
  So top guy puts -- Pylons 03/11/2019 10:08AM
  You get so many seconds to advance -- OrangeHokieFan 03/11/2019 10:45AM
  You answered a question not asked ** -- Pylons 03/11/2019 12:43PM
  2 boots in -- Hokiefan94 03/11/2019 10:24AM
  I'll return to #1 -- Pylons 03/11/2019 10:30AM
  So in this position -- Hokiefan94 03/11/2019 10:49AM
  So "2 boots in" -- Pylons 03/11/2019 12:49PM
  2 boots is a riding/stalling move. Either advancing, not likely. Restart!! -- wasris 03/11/2019 10:12AM
  It is up to the referee but I usually give the wrestlers 10-15 seconds -- AirborneHokie96 03/11/2019 1:33PM
  And that's getting more to the question -- Pylons 03/11/2019 10:22AM
  Restart -- AirborneHokie96 03/11/2019 3:00PM
  I agree. Saw several times a guy was broken down and had an arm trapped -- OrangeHokieFan 03/11/2019 09:02AM

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