What I would like to see would be the altitude as AGL (above ground level) -- B777Fr8Dog 01/28/2020 2:33PMFollow up to the Kobe flight thread(s) yesterday
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What I would like to see would be the altitude as AGL (above ground level) -- B777Fr8Dog 01/28/2020 2:33PM If that’s the case al least they didn’t see it coming. -- NWHokie 01/28/2020 11:52AM Don't know much about helicopters, but how long can they hover in -- TechMomof2 01/28/2020 11:38AM You don't want to pull into a hover in zero visibility -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 2:07PM And With GPS and detailed terrain maps how does this happen? ** -- Concord Dan 01/28/2020 1:51PM Those guys who do fly overs at VT in the WWII planes navigate using -- Atlee Hokie 01/28/2020 5:20PM You can hover as long as you have fuel -- HokieAl 01/28/2020 12:13PM ...and enough DA. ** -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 2:01PM I was thinking the same thing.. ** -- capitals1 01/28/2020 11:54AM Inadvertant IFR can be terrifying -- The Gobbler 01/28/2020 11:22AM Why not just stop and click autohover? ** -- Concord Dan 01/28/2020 1:47PM If they were upside down, do you think they hit something? What caused the -- Stech 01/28/2020 12:02PM IF it went upside down or spatial orientation was involved it is basically -- 91HokieBob 01/28/2020 2:32PM So, to be clear.... -- The Gobbler 01/28/2020 12:11PM No aviation experience here, but this has been my theory as well. -- MP4VT2004 01/28/2020 2:13PM Also, stupid question: do all aircraft have inclinometers? -- MP4VT2004 01/28/2020 2:23PM I read somewhere they were traveling about 180 mph (assuming -- Conan the Hokie 01/28/2020 11:33AM Spot on. It's bad. Practice it in the simulator, but NEVER want to get in -- 91HokieBob 01/28/2020 11:32AM I experienced that in a single engine plane in DC airspace. Weather -- TechMomof2 01/28/2020 11:30AM Special disorientation was mentioned in an article that I read. ** -- Chris Coleman 
01/28/2020 11:23AM Spatial disorientation ** -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 1:52PM You mean spatial ** -- JoesterVT 01/28/2020 1:59PM Isn't that special? -- MAHokie69 01/28/2020 2:06PM Debris field suggests that scenario ** -- TomTurkey 01/28/2020 10:57AM The report I saw last night said their was no mechanical issue -- fordham 01/28/2020 10:41AM If you're used to traveling around LA in a chopper, the last thing -- ElbertoHokie 01/28/2020 10:59AM Except most likely he is alive today, so he would have that going for him ** -- fordham 01/28/2020 11:52AM But you need to work under the assumption that he didn't think -- ElbertoHokie 01/28/2020 11:54AM Bad weather is bad weather, you have to access the risks, him or his pilot -- fordham 01/28/2020 2:35PM Too soon to know. Sounds like speculation to me ** -- MAHokie69 01/28/2020 10:52AM I wouldn't rule out a mechanical issue just yet... -- JoesterVT 01/28/2020 10:47AM I'm sure it had a Rad Alt -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 1:55PM Collective was basically full down with cyclic forward which would be -- 91HokieBob 01/28/2020 2:12PM It sounds like you're describing "settling with power" -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 2:25PM Hey, Edge, I'm a retired Army Aviator. Definitely not settling with power. -- 91HokieBob 01/28/2020 2:38PM The forward cyclic is why I'm leaning in that direction. -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 2:46PM VERY good video linked here, Edge with eyewitness account. Instructor pilot -- 91HokieBob 01/28/2020 3:03PM Still lots of questions... -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 4:31PM Just awful. Yup, more questions. ** -- 91HokieBob 01/28/2020 4:35PM So basically human error, plus a sequence of events that rarely happen. -- Chris Coleman
01/28/2020 4:07PM Hate to say it without the NTSB findings, but it doesn't look good. Having -- 91HokieBob 01/28/2020 4:14PM As someone who knows nothing about the technical aspects of the ... -- Atlee Hokie 01/28/2020 5:47PM The Pilot in Command IS the ultimate decision making authority. Regardless -- 91HokieBob 01/28/2020 5:59PM No question the pilot made a bad decision. ** -- Atlee Hokie 01/28/2020 6:15PM Concur 100% ** -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 4:32PM But all of this is pure speculation, and we'll probably never know because -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 2:52PM The more I think about it, that's probably what happened. ** -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 2:26PM When I mentioned a 4K/minute rate of descent, that's something done at... -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 1:59PM I heard that asked somewhere and answered 'yes' ** -- JoesterVT 01/28/2020 11:00AM So if he had it turned on, then something in the chopper probably broke. -- Chris Coleman
01/28/2020 11:09AM Remember: 4,000 foot/minute rate of descent -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 1:56PM Especially when a normal helo rate of descent is 500 to 1000' per minute. -- 91HokieBob 01/28/2020 2:43PM Not knowing anything, I wonder if it was turned off since they had been -- reestuart 01/28/2020 11:43AM Is the terrain warning system an audio only system or can it be -- VTHokie2000 01/28/2020 11:33AM Probably both, but I don't know the equipment on that aircraft. -- EDGEMAN 01/28/2020 1:56PM Believe that is what occurred.... -- The Gobbler 01/28/2020 11:25AM Shot an interior near uptown yesterday and after the shoot, walking back -- PhotoHokieNC 01/28/2020 11:24AM "Sully" - good movie ** -- TomTurkey 01/28/2020 10:58AM "sputtering sound" ** -- PhotoHokieNC 01/28/2020 10:51AMTech Sideline is Presented By:
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