Screw ND. If you won’t join, you won’t play for conf. championship. -- YardBird 09/16/2021 7:24PM
Couldn't ACC do something 2 include ND in Conference Champ game as an Indy? -- Stech 09/15/2021 07:22AM
Ah...hell no! I like the ND deal, but nope. ** -- reestuart 09/16/2021 10:51AM
Thanks presenting such a strong argument backed up with all those facts :-) ** -- Stech 09/16/2021 12:27PM
They aren't in the ACC. Why would they be allowed to compete for an ACC -- reestuart 09/16/2021 1:07PM
Correct ** -- TerryD 09/16/2021 2:30PM
ACC would be better off giving its lesser football programs the current ND -- daveinop 09/16/2021 09:49AM
Why the fixation on Notre Dame? -- M-I-C 09/15/2021 11:13PM
FWIW Army has already tried life as a football-only member in a conference -- VTHokie2000 09/17/2021 1:25PM
Army left CUSA for reasons beyond the demands of playing in a G5 -- M-I-C 09/17/2021 5:48PM
WRT your "Army, Navy and Air Force can play at the P5 level just fine" -- VTHokie2000 09/17/2021 5:57PM
I base it on their track record. -- M-I-C 09/17/2021 7:13PM
The WVU-Army game was just 1 game though. The 3 academies do just fine -- VTHokie2000 09/17/2021 10:43PM
For the second half of this, the CFP part -- Truthahn 09/15/2021 9:45PM
I like this idea but without Navy. -- Truthahn 09/15/2021 9:09PM
We agree on the concept & that’s the most important thing. A couple of -- Stech 09/15/2021 9:41PM
I like Navy a lot. -- Truthahn 09/15/2021 9:55PM
I don’t think you would do well in prison ** -- CrystalCoveHokie 09/15/2021 7:12PM
Okay counselor, I will take the bait, -- Stech 09/15/2021 7:28PM
Was making a weak joke…… -- CrystalCoveHokie 09/15/2021 8:00PM
The ACC is already a weak football Conference, this makes it stronger, but -- Stech 09/15/2021 8:27PM
Frankly…..The way to strengthen the conference (i.e. more money per member) -- CrystalCoveHokie 09/15/2021 8:43PM
It’s easier for the football schools to go to the SEC and B1G, University -- Stech 09/15/2021 8:53PM
The highest indy is like a conf champ to me -- Truthahn 09/15/2021 9:16PM
BYU is going to the B12, ND would be included in my proposal, who else are -- Stech 09/15/2021 9:25PM
Nobody, but you can't just say it's ND and skip the rest! -- Truthahn 09/15/2021 9:58PM
Liberty, Army and UMass, UConn, NMSU, Army. -- goldendomer 09/15/2021 9:38PM
Army and Navy should be independent IMO. -- Maroon Baboon 09/15/2021 11:09PM
The others could easily join elsewhere, in my proposal Navy is in the ACC. -- Stech 09/15/2021 9:45PM
Oh I see. -- Truthahn 09/15/2021 10:01PM
Out of that group the hardest to place (besides us due to unwillingness) -- goldendomer 09/15/2021 9:55PM
Maybe the loser between the Sun Belt and CUSA reloads will take them. -- Truthahn 09/15/2021 10:11PM
I think UMass was booted by the MAC, too. -- Truthahn 09/15/2021 9:12PM
The MAC didn't have much of a choice in giving UMass that ultimatum because -- VTHokie2000 09/17/2021 1:16PM
I think you would have an antitrust problem if you start excluding confs…. -- CrystalCoveHokie 09/15/2021 9:02PM
I am not excluding a Conference, highest ranked Conf Champs includes all of -- Stech 09/15/2021 9:17PM
My vote, and what I think is best for VT, is….. -- CrystalCoveHokie 09/15/2021 9:56PM
I think the problem is Navy -- Mercury 09/15/2021 5:02PM
Sorry that’s just not what history says about Navy football results, Navy -- Stech 09/15/2021 6:02PM
Okay, I waited. I don't like any aspect of this. It LOSES $ -- daveinop 09/15/2021 4:59PM
Prove what you are saying, I am not buying what your “opinion”, but if -- Stech 09/15/2021 6:12PM
OK. ND currently plays 5 ACC teams. The ACC gets $ for either 2 or 3 -- daveinop 09/16/2021 09:05AM
This is a reasonable idea ... only issue (which is solvable) -- HokieToph 09/15/2021 2:52PM
ND football: All in or full Indy. No in between. 8 conference games like -- seekoHoG 09/15/2021 1:39PM
Agreed. No title game access needed or sought -- TerryD 09/15/2021 3:46PM
Great, if you don’t need access, make it Conference Champs only to the CFP! -- Stech 09/15/2021 6:07PM
I meant the ACC Championship game -- TerryD 09/15/2021 6:59PM
I know you really don’t give a squat about the ACC or College Football, -- Stech 09/15/2021 7:04PM
Is that wrong? Lol. -- TerryD 09/15/2021 7:34PM
Well at least you’re honest about not caring, I will give you that. ** -- Stech 09/15/2021 7:30PM
You are a Virginia Tech fan -- TerryD 09/15/2021 7:41PM
Your proposal’s good for 1 school, my proposal is for more than 1 school & -- Stech 09/15/2021 8:37PM
*** -- TerryD 09/15/2021 7:43PM
I personally have no complaints about the current arrangement -- seekoHoG 09/15/2021 4:34PM
So you are okay with 5 games, but not 7, interesting perspective. ** -- Stech 09/15/2021 5:56PM
Not what I said. But I am opposed to ND having access to -- seekoHoG 09/15/2021 6:27PM
7 instead of 8, let’s progress towards 8 it’s 40% more than current -- Stech 09/15/2021 6:36PM
I am in favor of keeping it 5 games through 2036 ** -- TerryD 09/15/2021 7:00PM
Not surprised, aren’t you in favor of getting out of the ACC all together?** -- Stech 09/15/2021 7:05PM
I am in favor of the status quo through 2036 -- TerryD 09/15/2021 7:28PM
I understand from your point of view, but I think you guys will likely win -- Stech 09/15/2021 7:36PM
*** -- TerryD 09/15/2021 7:24PM
Not opposed to the 7 games. SPECIAL access to title game; I don’t think so. ** -- seekoHoG 09/15/2021 6:47PM
All the other ACC teams only have to play 7 too, so no special treatment, -- Stech 09/15/2021 7:01PM
Hard for us to comprehend the National Champ or nothing philosophy. -- Hokester 09/15/2021 4:31PM
Its been that way for ND for 132 out of 133 years -- TerryD 09/15/2021 7:06PM
That was a very poor decision by the ACC to include ND, very poor. -- Stech 09/15/2021 7:41PM
I hope the Alliance says only conf champs in the playoff. -- Hokester 09/15/2021 9:31PM
In a perfect world, I agree, but I doubt they have the guts to do it. -- Stech 09/15/2021 9:48PM
You are so right but ND jumped the shark when they got in bed with the SEC. -- Hokester 09/16/2021 11:39AM
Normally I dont believe the antitrust talk -- Truthahn 09/15/2021 10:15PM
Not much difference than requiring union membership. -- Hokester 09/16/2021 11:32AM
Right. The Alliance is not antitrust, but rather anti-anti-trust! -- Truthahn 09/16/2021 8:08PM
Don't like the idea of doing anything -- VT ChemE 1986 09/15/2021 1:10PM
Adding Navy isn't worth it unless Notre Dame comes all in with them. ** -- tarheelblue 09/15/2021 12:30PM
They're coming w/ them, going from 5-7 games & play in the Conf Champ game. -- Stech 09/15/2021 12:43PM
Is Notre Dame also handing over their football media rights to the ACC? -- tarheelblue 09/15/2021 3:58PM
It’s better than the current agreement, we would get $ from at least 1 more -- Stech 09/15/2021 6:29PM
Then, I repeat, it's not worth taking Navy just for that. -- tarheelblue 09/15/2021 8:01PM
Navy has better TV ratings than many P5 programs, they’re also a new state, -- Stech 09/15/2021 8:35PM
ESPN would have to guarantee the ACC at minimum an extra $100 million/year -- tarheelblue 09/16/2021 3:14PM
Not that I believe this would/should happen but I bet they would do a 100 -- goldendomer 09/16/2021 4:33PM
Unless we can pull a rabbit out of the hat by adding someone like PSU... -- EDGEMAN 09/15/2021 12:40PM
What value does this model add for the ACC - maybe a little -- 133193Hokie 09/15/2021 09:53AM
Like you said more $ for the ACC Champ game, 7 ND games instead of 5, buys -- Stech 09/15/2021 12:32PM
So lets say - for the sake of argument -- 133193Hokie 09/15/2021 2:45PM
Just make all crossover games -- Maroon Baboon 09/15/2021 09:39AM
Strength of Schedule/Rankings for OOC will be huge! You can't make it w/o -- Stech 09/15/2021 12:46PM
Unless there is a scheduling czar of some sort, to insist that G5-P5 games -- Maroon Baboon 04/06/2022 01:14AM