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Coach : heres a couple things to mull over

First, the cabin mates in cruise ships early on provided first indication i know of that there was either cross immunity/resistance or the bug was in the wild well prior to previously thought. It turns out both are correct. The bug was in the wild a month or more earlier than initially thought and they have gound ctoss resistance/immunity in populations around the world. Estimates range between 40-60%.

There is no other explanation for some folks being exposed to big viral loads and not only not getting sick, no symptoms, no disease at all.

Putting the shoe on the other foot, how does a vax work? Stimulates the bodies immune response, yes?

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Posted: 07/10/2020 at 4:05PM

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