Well, as I said in the story, this came from Bill Foster years before

With the Clemson people being the source. Whether it's true, I guess no one will ever know. By the time they revisited it years later, your memory is absolutely correct. Mark Warner made it happen, but they still couldn't agree on the third team, taking only Miami and VT in 2004. To get a 12th, they then took BC a year later

And if you ask my daughter, everything I write is a bit romanticized. She would even say OVER-romanticized :)
[Post edited by AshburnFarmHokie at 09/16/2021 3:59PM]

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Posted: 09/16/2021 at 3:53PM

Was thinking about that 1999 game with West Virginia... -- AshburnFarmHokie 09/15/2021 5:53PM

Nice read, but possibly a bit romanticized. -- Wilmington Hokie 09/16/2021 12:15PM

Well, as I said in the story, this came from Bill Foster years before -- AshburnFarmHokie 09/16/2021 3:53PM

I'll corroborate AshburnFarmHokie's account. And downplay Warner's role -- Hokie Fiji 09/16/2021 2:57PM

Bill Goodwin also had a huge role. Not sure if he pressured Warner -- Nelsonia Hokie 09/16/2021 5:59PM

I actually think Goodwin and Casteen got Warner to use the political angle -- Nelsonia Hokie 09/16/2021 6:00PM

Always wondered that about Warner... -- AshburnFarmHokie 09/16/2021 3:58PM

Great read! ** -- ReffinHokie 09/16/2021 06:45AM

In retrospect, if VT hadn’t have been included, would VT now be in SEC? ** -- WestyHokie 09/15/2021 9:54PM

I don't think so -- Hokie Fiji 09/16/2021 3:01PM

Yes… natural book end for Texas A&M IMHO. Nothing against Missouri, but -- Tuckahokie 09/15/2021 10:24PM

Excellent question. -- AshburnFarmHokie 09/15/2021 10:07PM

And we dominated the ACC for years after that. So good. But -- YardBird 09/15/2021 8:03PM

President of Miami was friends with the presidents from BC and Syracuse -- AshburnFarmHokie 09/15/2021 8:14PM

& there was the residual image value in Doug Flutie(BC)/ Donovan McNabb(SU) ** -- seacain 09/15/2021 10:04PM

A bit more than that... -- HOKIEGOBBLE 09/15/2021 10:02PM

I seem to recall she also wanted them because those are huge recruiting... -- EDGEMAN 09/15/2021 8:29PM

For students…not athletes so much. ** -- marcbvtgm 09/15/2021 9:00PM

I think you're right. I had forgotten that part... ** -- AshburnFarmHokie 09/15/2021 8:52PM

Probably not as much recruiting athletes as students -- EDGEMAN 09/16/2021 07:55AM

.yup. the acc really wanted miami, so they went along with shalalalalala's -- squarerootofone 09/15/2021 8:22PM

Until the VA governor pushed uva to fight for VT ** -- Hokie`79 09/15/2021 10:40PM

Awesome post Ashburn. ** -- seacain 09/15/2021 6:44PM

Well, as I said in the story, this came from Bill Foster years before

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