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daveinop

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You make some good points. Here's how I looked at it


Presumed #1 and undefeated ND goes into its last weekend of the season and loses to Stanford. They finish 11-1.

the following week, UNC upsets Clemson whose only loss to that point was to #1 ND. UNC finishes 12-1 with a 12 game win streak.

10-2 Stanford, fresh off a win over #1 ND goes on to win the PAC and is 11-2.

MSU beats previously unbeaten Iowa (SOS way worse than UNC) to go 12-1.

At this point the committee is probably picking among ND, Stanford, MSU, and UNC for #'s 3 and 4 in the playoff.

UNC and ND are 4-0 against common opponents. ND is 8-1 v. P5's, 3-0 v. G5's. UNC is 10-1 v. P5's and 2-0 v.FCS.

Stanford is 10-2 v. P5's , 1-0 v. G5 and they and ND each have a win over a common opponent (USC). Stanford also owns the head to head.

MSU is 9-1 v. P5's, 3-0 v. G5 and they have no common opponents with ND.

Final SOS was ND (8), Stanford (10), MSU (20) and UNC (30)...don't know what it was before the bowls.

So what distinguishes ND from these 3 CCG winners? Are they clearly better than any of them...unequivocally in the top 4? We know they are 0-1 against the CCG winner with the worst record.

The committee had MSU at 3 and ahead of Stanford...perhaps due to common game against Oregon and the late win over 12-0 Iowa, though Stanford now has a hypothetical win over an undefeated presumed #1.

I don't think there is any way ND is ahead of Stanford losing head to head, Stanford with CCG points, and the SOS pretty close.

In one on one comparisons, ND is probably closer to being ahead of UNC and MSU with the committee looking at SOS versus CCG.

In this hypothetical we gave UNC a 12 game win streak, the longest in the country, and a win equal to ND's best win.

I think Stanford was ND's playoff game.

(In response to this post by lawhokie)

Posted: 06/16/2016 at 9:41PM


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  If ND makes the CFP & knocks off 2 P5, what happens to the criteria? -- Stech 06/15/2016 12:43PM
  I just went back and looked at ND's football history -- BigCrumpy 06/15/2016 4:27PM
  Remember that ND affiliated with the BE because -- BigCrumpy 06/15/2016 4:24PM
  ND must have a perfect recort to even have a shot -- EDGEMAN 06/15/2016 1:57PM
  ND could easily be top 4 with 1 loss. No guarantee, but too many variables** -- jesuisvtguy 06/15/2016 3:15PM
  I can understand the skepticism going into the first year of the CFP, but -- daveinop 06/16/2016 08:46AM
  Just don't see them passing too many 12-1 teams. ** -- chuckd4vt 06/15/2016 11:25PM
  How about if UNC had won the ACCCG in 2015? -- lawhokie 06/16/2016 09:10AM
  So, ND beats Clemson and loses to Stanford? -- daveinop 06/16/2016 10:00AM
  Don't see how UNC gets in over Notre Dame in that case -- lawhokie 06/16/2016 12:06PM
  You make some good points. Here's how I looked at it -- daveinop 06/16/2016 9:41PM
  And that is why there is a committee. ** -- East Cobb Hokie 06/17/2016 1:04PM
  Respectfully disagree. ND is in a one an done situation. One loss and -- DMaroonHokie 06/15/2016 8:12PM
  Maybe with a loss in the first couple of games. Any November -- seekoHoG 06/15/2016 7:17PM
  Then why did the Big 12 vote the championship game? They know the winners -- Stech 06/15/2016 6:47PM
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