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For those who believe the ND deal with ACC is bad, please explain?

This will be my last post for a while focusing on ND. Not sure why we are giving them the message board equivalent of a proctology exam, but I guess we must b*tch about something in the offseason.

IMHO, the ACC/ND deal has been a win-win for both parties:

* ND gets one of the premier conference homes for basketball and non-rev sports. ND also gets more coverage on the entire East Coast (as if they need it, haha). ND gets coverage on the ACCN. And, ND Football gets a bowl season "insurance policy". In seasons where they don't make the CFP, they get one of the ACC's top bowls (Outback, Camping World, Belk). The downside for them is they lose schedule flexibility by playing 5 ACC teams annually. And they play them all equally - seeing Wake and Duke as often as they see Clemson and FSU.

* ACC gets 5 games annually against ND (almost all nationally televised). Every team plays ND once every 3 years on average. This bolsters the TV inventory with the marquee team in CFP (like it or not). ND keeps higher tier bowls in the ACC fold, with the chance to have ND show up on occasion. Without question, the ND "tie-in" raises the football profile. (I can't come up with any example on how it could possibly lower it.) ACC also gets quality teams for non-rev games - ND is usually good at non-rev sports. Downside is Prestige (ACC has to live with the commentary that we are the only major conference to accept a partial member) and another mouth to feed for non-rev sports. However, some sources have said the ACCN does not happen without ND.

My question to the board is... for those who want the ACC out of the ND deal... Why? What negatives am I missing? And are those negatives greater than the risks to LOWER tv rights, fewer bowl tie-ins and less viewership for ACCN in the future?

Posted: 04/23/2021 at 10:44AM

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For those who believe the ND deal with ACC is bad, please explain? -- gman86 04/23/2021 10:44AM

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I would like to get Maryland back along with West Virginia. -- Maroon Baboon 04/26/2021 6:22PM

Why do you keep posting about posters beating up ND posters? It’s not true. -- Stech 04/23/2021 7:26PM

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I am with you on Virginia Tech being great again with FSU & Miami, not -- Stech 04/28/2021 8:43PM

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I agree it is unlikely that Notre Dame will give up its NBC contract -- VTHokie2000 04/29/2021 1:03PM

ND likes NBC for the OVA coverage and dedicated broadcast times/slots -- TerryD 04/29/2021 3:12PM

I hope ND keeps NBC even as full member. -- HOO86 04/29/2021 7:38PM

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Swofford was ok with ND keeping NBC as member. -- HOO86 04/29/2021 7:40PM

ESPN may not be okay with it though ** -- VTHokie2000 04/29/2021 7:49PM

It expires by its terms in 2025 -- TerryD 04/29/2021 4:40PM

I am assuming that NBC will renew it for X number of years -- VTHokie2000 04/29/2021 6:23PM

You missed one positive. There would be no ACC Network without ND. -- TerryD 04/23/2021 1:55PM

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I actually attended the game in Orlando -- EDGEMAN 04/26/2021 09:15AM

I attended also and had a great trip. Furrer with too many picks in game. ** -- Lakeridgehokie 04/26/2021 10:09AM

Friggin Terrell Buckley. ** -- reestuart 04/26/2021 5:07PM

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How will that generate more TV cash to the ACC before 2037? ** -- TerryD 04/28/2021 11:02PM

Increase viewership for the ACC Network. ** -- wwhokie1 04/29/2021 10:25AM

Schools raised their prices when VT came to town. That's not unusual. -- EDGEMAN 04/23/2021 4:35PM

Its demand -- TerryD 04/23/2021 4:55PM

That's not unique to Notre Dame -- Tailgate Guru 04/26/2021 10:19AM

Unique or not, it is a benefit of having ND come to town via a 5 game deal ** -- TerryD 04/26/2021 11:21AM

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