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Much better post. However, I still disagree

Im glad you don't actually think we have to come to the same conclusion everytime. I was really worried I was going to have to argue bubba Wallace's crew member was right to fit your rules. Something, I will admit I read wrong at first and changed as more info came out.

As for the topic at hand, I do think I'm being fair. I don't see a viable ulterior motive for kapernick et al. I'm up for hearing otherwise. Frankly, I applaud you for pointing out an actual argument instead of hiding behind a dogma; that's kind of amusing considering I think you're just playing devil's advocate.

It should be a discussion and we're actually having one. Cheers.

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Posted: 06/29/2020 at 8:41PM

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Maybe I gave you too much credit too quickly. -- vthokieq 06/29/2020 8:24PM

Much better post. However, I still disagree -- jmanatVT 06/29/2020 8:41PM

Not playing devil's advocate at all. -- vthokieq 06/29/2020 9:02PM

In any case, you are being reasonable. There's more nuance to my thought -- jmanatVT 06/29/2020 9:24PM

But now you’re veering from my OP. -- vthokieq 06/29/2020 9:41PM

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Much better post. However, I still disagree

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