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AbsolutVT03

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As long as you continue to spout ignorance regarding the vaccine then I


Will continue to respond and set the record straight. I’m done ignoring people spewing false information. If you want to think that your wife receiving the vaccine made you sick somehow there’s little I can do to change your mind. But I’m not going to sit around and let you attempt to scare others with an anecdotal story that has next to zero basis in reality.

I honestly don’t care if you want to take ivermectin or not. My issue is with you claiming it is “safe” and implying the vaccines are not. Period. Then you turn around and admit, oh yeah ivermectin can be dangerous if not taken correctly or in the right dose or if people are genetically predisposed to a reaction which is basically the point I was making. And I’m willing to wager that in 50 years of a drug being used that more than 3 people have died from it. I’d make that wager on just about any drug that’s been given for that amount of time. Plain old common sense and the law of averages would tell you that’s a pretty safe bet. FWIW there are side effects listed for ivermectin. Pretending there’s not is naive. Just as pretending that there aren’t and haven’t been people researching it to see how it helps with COVID. The result of that research have been mixed at best. Hence my statement about you trying to tout it as some miracle cure. I don’t have an issue with people talking to their doctors about it or trying it as a treatment. I have an issue with it being touted as some sort of preventative alternative when there’s not really anything to support that. I’m sure you have no problem believing the vaccine has killed thousands in this country while also believing that another drug has only ever killed 3 people worldwide in 50 years. That alone shows how biased and irrational your thinking is on this.

It’s interesting that your heart “breaks” for people you claim have “suffered greatly” from the vaccine but apparently not for those who have suffered from the disease which is a far, far greater number. It apparently does not move you to tears to see people dying needlessly when there is a safe and effective vaccine available. You seem unwilling or unable to admit to even the possibility of these people’s ailments NOT being caused by the vaccine. I would question where you have “seen the accounts of too many people who have suffered greatly”. I mean you realize there was all kinds of misinformation being spread on TikTok regarding how the vaccine makes you magnetic and other such stuff.

I get it. You believe that something almost impossible and far fetched happened to you and thus you are willing to believe any other almost impossible and far fetched story. But that doesn’t make them true. The likelihood of your wife’s vaccine somehow making you sick is infinitesimal. And I only say infinitesimal b/c I’m not fond of speaking in absolutes. It doesn’t make sense from a medical or biological standpoint. Yes I’m sure you’ve found other people on the internet that believe the same thing as you. That’s the danger of the internet. Anyone can post anything regardless of how factual or accurate it may be and then anyone else can see that and say “See it’s not just me”. I can find all kinds of people online who claim the Earth is flat or that lizard people are in charge of our government. That doesn’t make that true. The fact that you blame “mainstream media” for “squashing these stories” should tell you something. Perhaps consider the possibility that the reason stories like that aren’t getting more attention is because there’s not really any sort of factual basis to them.

The distrust in the healthcare community is caused by people like yourself who want to continually cast doubt upon doctors and scientists who know way more about this stuff while embracing random people on the internet who tell fantastical stories with little to no actual evidence to support them. That’s become a massive problem during this pandemic and it’s one of the reasons that I will continue to call you out when you post things like that. I’m not saying every doctor or scientist is right all the time. I’m saying that in general I’m going to believe a trained medical professional over a random Twitter user or YouTuber relaying an anecdotal story based on specious (at best) logic. See Nicki Minaj’s Twitter post about her “cousin’s friend who got the vaccine and then his testicles swelled up and his fiancé called off their wedding”. By your logic and in your mind that’s proof of how dangerous the vaccine is. But to me it’s simply an anecdotal, second hand account that is likely either completely untrue (as in it didn’t happen) or is completely unrelated to the vaccine. I don’t think people like that need to be “affirmed”. I’m all for investigating potential reactions but if it turns out that the person is correlating the vaccine to an ailment that it almost certainly didn’t cause then that needs to be accepted. Correlation does not equal causation. FWIW I think this is what has happened in your situation.

The side effects and reactions of the vaccine are being researched. They are being documented. When I got both of my vaccine doses the CDC sent me text messages at regular intervals. They had me record my overall health as well as any potential vaccine related problems. I don’t think anyone is claiming no one has had complications from the vaccine (that would be what YOU are claiming regarding ivermectin). What is being claimed is that severe reactions are very rare and the benefit greatly outweighs the risk. And the numbers bear that out. Also not all the vaccines are mRNA so no they are not “the only way”. Do you have reservations about the J&J shot even though it’s not mRNA? If not, why not simply get that one instead?

As far as getting the vaccine being a “personal decision” there are few issues with that. First off your decision not to get a vaccine doesn’t simply impact only you. But more than that too many people are basing their decision off of anecdotal or completely inaccurate information. That’s one of the reasons I’m done letting stuff like that go.

My original point was that any medical treatment whether we’re talking about ivermectin or a vaccine has potential side effects and reactions and that nothing is going to be 100% effective. There are no guarantees in medicine unfortunately. I would always recommend anyone who has any reservations about any kind of medical treatment to discuss them with their doctor. The problem is many people aren’t doing that. Instead they’re discussing it with random internet posters with zero qualifications and taking what those people say as gospel. Or the doctor tells them what they don’t want to hear so they just go on believing what they want. That is what is leading to much of the vaccine hesitancy and it’s what’s leading to people overdosing on ivermectin. And only one of us here is downplaying and undercutting medical professionals and it’s not me. Talk to your doctor. Believe in science.

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