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It's a common assumption that is being perpetuated through exclusion...

All we are seeing is "ICU's are near or at capacity" in a lot of the media. What they are not saying is that most of those in ICU at this time are non-covid patients, about 80%. Most ICU's are seeing covid occupation at about 10%-20% right now. What the media is also doing is saying so-and-so county has no ICU beds available when in fact that particular region has very little to possibly no ICU capacity to begin with. So the number gets reported in with all the other capacity numbers and it skews information.

Sorry, I just see a lot of agenda being driven with what data is picked to e reported and how the data is being presented. No jab at you, just my $0.02.

(In response to this post by AbsolutVT03)

Posted: 07/08/2020 at 4:19PM

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It's a common assumption that is being perpetuated through exclusion...

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