if, as you assert, "nearly every decision over 10 years was a disaster" that they would still arguably be considered no worse than the 3rd strongest conference even today. I would also suggest you expand your horizons to include more than just football insiders to get a complete picture and understanding of conference matters and future prospects. VT most certainly faces challenges and new ones arrive everyday, however, their position to confront those challenges is significantly stronger than it was 10 or 20 years ago.

As for your other considerations, you didn't really name any of those that impacted conference decisions you just chose to regurgitate once again your disagreements or criticisms with some decisions made. I have no way of knowing whether this just demonstrates your lack of understanding of the questions previously raised or an attempt to dance around the questions raised because you have no response. My response to your complaints is as follows.

Miami was the lynch pin to ACC expansion and ultimate survival and BC was their demand. Miami did not have to go to the ACC and could have pursued other potential options which would have effectively weakened the ACC further and possibly splintered the conference. Although your order of credit shows a complete lack of understanding what happened with expansion, money folks and Virginia government did help out the ACC. An assist which would have been totally unavailable without the arrogance and original no votes of the UNC and Duke folks.

BC and the TV market is really no different than the reason Maryland and Rutgers were pursued by the Big 10. Maryland's subsequent exit involved LOh's desire to become a Big 10 President by even the backdoor and cleaning up a financial mess the Terps created for themselves. The playoff in Tampa is nothing more than the extension of the conference's original belief/attempt to make it about FSU and Miami. An erroneous belief but, hardly a conference deal breaker as to truly cover the footprint an argument can be made conference championships need to be moved with the geographic footprint as opposed to benefitting a single area. As far as other teams chosen for addition or not chosen, neither you or I are privy to all the information that drives those decisions so it is hard to say whether a particular school is even in play or receptive when those discussions are ongoing.

I agree the ACC should always attempt to learn from history and not repeat past mistakes. I have my doubts that you really understand what were real mistakes and what are just the natural results of existing circumstances. Finally, if you're not Chuck, you can save yourself some typing in the future by referencing his previous posts and just recopying because you have his spiel complete with erroneous conclusions and inferences down pat so far. If you are Chuck, as I suspect, your Twerps just finished 53rd to VT's 28 in the all sports standings, a far cry from where they used to reside when they were an ACC member which certainly raises the possibility that their conference change was not nearly the slam dunk/homerun originally touted.
[Post edited by 2hhoop3 at 06/30/2018 8:23PM]