It was below VFR mins before his initial takeoff, because he filed...

...a "Special VFR" flight plan. If the area had been clear, he would have filed a VFR flight plan. Heck, I don't know if I've ever filed one of those...maybe once or twice? Personally I would have filed IFR flight plan if the weather was that "marginal." There are too many towers and hills to try to fly under a low ceiling like that...

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Posted: 01/27/2020 at 11:58AM

ATC radio transmissions with Kobe’s helicopter. -- B777Fr8Dog 01/26/2020 10:26PM

When he switched to Van Nuys, he was at 1400'. They reported a ceiling... -- EDGEMAN 01/27/2020 08:53AM

Not if these reports are correct(seen this a couple of different places) -- JoesterVT 01/27/2020 09:14AM

That's called vertigo, and it's a very real thing -- EDGEMAN 01/27/2020 11:47AM

Check out Fr8Dog's ATC post above. Don't rely on news media. ** -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 09:23AM

What in the post above rules out this report? -- JoesterVT 01/27/2020 09:28AM

Nothing, except that excerpt only covers the final few minutes -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 09:31AM

For sure...just saying... -- JoesterVT 01/27/2020 09:36AM

Helicopters can twist and accelerate in turns in weird ways. -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 09:41AM

"It sounds like the pilot was taking too much risk, -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 09:04AM

I stand my my initial assessment. He shouldn't have been trying to... -- EDGEMAN 01/27/2020 12:02PM

Could the weather have changed on him? Or can it be different in one -- Stork 01/27/2020 2:38PM

The problem with the weather is that it was there when he took off -- EDGEMAN 01/27/2020 3:56PM

Police said weather conditions were below minimum requirements -- capitals1 01/27/2020 09:13AM

This. LAPD wasn't flying and they fly in pretty much everything. -- SDHokie 01/27/2020 12:06PM

True. I wonder if the hold he had for 15 minutes was the period in which -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 09:21AM

It was below VFR mins before his initial takeoff, because he filed... -- EDGEMAN 01/27/2020 11:58AM

Since the local sheriff spokesman said they'd grounded their helicopters -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 12:20PM

Have a feeling it was IFR before sunrise, thus the pilot filed a Special V -- EDGEMAN 01/27/2020 1:01PM

Listening to the audio on the youtube Fr8Dog posted, I wonder why -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 1:05PM

They were waiting for. Plane the went missed approach at a Burbank and -- B777Fr8Dog 01/27/2020 6:30PM

I recommend any time you need to fly to get photographs... -- EDGEMAN 01/27/2020 1:11PM

Is 30 years old for that model? ** -- Late 80s Hokie 01/27/2020 06:16AM

From Sikorsky website and reports: -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 07:40AM

I actually worked there for about a year. My wife for 10+ years. But stil -- Late 80s Hokie 01/27/2020 07:44AM

Was offered a job there in about 2007 but didn't think I could deal with -- 81_Hokie 01/27/2020 11:27AM

Depends on where you lived. Stratford is actually fairly affordable, FOR -- Late 80s Hokie 01/27/2020 11:30AM

Well. Let me use this analogy. My -- HokieR 01/27/2020 08:06AM

Except that all aircraft, fixed wing or not, undergo far more rigorous -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 08:13AM

Thanks. I knew it would be more rigorous -- HokieR 01/27/2020 08:27AM

Did either you or your wife work there when that model was in production? -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 08:02AM

You'd have to know that specific helicopter's flight and maintenance logs. -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 07:56AM

Everything seemed so normal until they went down. Thanks for this, Dog. ** -- PhotoHokieNC 01/27/2020 06:00AM

I learned a new term from those comments -- HokieAl 01/26/2020 10:47PM

It was below VFR mins before his initial takeoff, because he filed...

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