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Football is the only sport that such a sinkhole of money

Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, all fantastic basketball programs that have spent most of their football history being the worst of doormats. Some P5 programs have even been basement dwellers in football and basketball for long stretches. No reason to think that VT wouldn't just pivot towards basketball, then to other sports, if they started going 10-20 years without a winning season in football.

The increasing money being applied to college football (well before NIL) without any kind of salary or spending cap is just a real world demonstration of a power law distribution. Continually adding money to it is just going to make it that much more pronounced. In the modern (BCS and beyond) era, it was already nearly impossible for a non-moneyed program to win a national title (VT is by far the least-rich program to ever play in the title game, all it took was one of the best college QBs of all time). In the last 10 years this same power law trend is squeezing programs out of being able to even win their conference. Even so, it's not making teams leave. It's virtually impossible for Illinois to ever win the Big 10 in football at this point (unless they want to spend double what they currently are, forever), but they're not going anywhere.

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Posted: 09/19/2021 at 11:39AM

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After the first 3 weeks of this season who in their right mind -- 133193Hokie 09/18/2021 4:48PM

Just blow up the whole thing -- HokieAl 09/19/2021 1:44PM

Legally football may not be allowed to be treated separately because of -- VTHokie2000 09/19/2021 2:23PM

Interesting perspective. Certainly nothing easy about all of this ** -- HokieAl 09/19/2021 3:48PM

SS ACC is sinking. Call me a rat. ** -- lawhokie 09/19/2021 10:09AM

The SEC safe harbor is closed until ~2030. ** -- tarheelblue 09/19/2021 12:09PM

BC & Wake are the only undefeated ACC teams in the ACC, the $$ is coming!! -- Stech 09/19/2021 07:22AM

What has changed you? -- 133193Hokie 09/19/2021 08:43AM

The ACC should/could have been great, just add ND full time and Miami FSU & -- Stech 09/19/2021 09:10AM

So youaredonating ** -- Femoyer Hokie 09/19/2021 5:26PM

I am not sure I understand your ?, but I’ve donated plenty to Virginia Tech -- Stech 09/19/2021 5:49PM

Like wise - I have been Golden for over 15 years. But it is getting harder -- 133193Hokie 09/20/2021 6:38PM

So how do you make it happen sooner? How do you pay off the GOR rights? -- Femoyer Hokie 09/19/2021 5:56PM

Re: So how do you make it happen sooner? How do you pay off the GOR rights? -- Stech 09/19/2021 6:11PM

All it will take is signaling… -- lawhokie 09/21/2021 1:07PM

So youaredonating ** -- Femoyer Hokie 09/19/2021 5:26PM

If vt ( as well as miami and fsu) not well in thr acc -- Mercury 09/19/2021 5:21PM

Good question, IMHO ESPN continually hyping the SEC for 10+ yrs, has made -- Stech 09/19/2021 5:29PM

What prevents UNC and UVA from joining the SEC tomorrow morning? -- 33laszlo99 09/19/2021 8:42PM

UNC is not going anywhere without Duke and Virginia Tech and UVA would be -- Stech 09/20/2021 07:41AM

UNC and NCSU are part of the same -- RTFC 09/20/2021 2:03PM

TA&M jumped without worrying about Texas and Oklahoma without Okie State. -- tarheelblue 09/20/2021 3:27PM

Texas A&M is flagship of its own separate system -- Hokie Fiji 09/20/2021 9:05PM

There are a number of factors that make UNC and Duke intertwined. -- tarheelblue 09/20/2021 11:15PM

UT is/was a different animal, no one would worry about them -- RTFC 09/20/2021 3:54PM

Who decides? The conference or the media company? -- 33laszlo99 09/20/2021 10:52AM

Duke has as much football cred as Rutgers and Maryland. ** -- tarheelblue 09/20/2021 3:36PM

That may be true, but it is still near zero. ** -- 33laszlo99 09/20/2021 4:29PM

Duke also has more prestigious academic reputation and is in a larger state -- tarheelblue 09/20/2021 4:35PM

Ther might be some... -- 33laszlo99 09/20/2021 6:55PM

Why stop there? -- tarheelblue 09/20/2021 01:13AM

Beacuse you would be asking existing SEC to take a revenue cut. The -- 133193Hokie 09/20/2021 6:40PM

Maybe not. Sometimes the whole is worth more than the sum of the parts. -- tarheelblue 09/20/2021 7:02PM

The SEC has done great with 2 teams from a state, the ACC adding VT may be -- Stech 09/20/2021 7:10PM

Exactly. Having the 2 primary schools of a state in the same conference -- tarheelblue 09/20/2021 11:00PM

Bingo…the SEC not so secret formula is PASSION!! People watch PASSION!! -- Stech 09/21/2021 07:38AM

I don't think they will... -- Stech 09/20/2021 07:35AM

You just described Duke in your first paragraph. IF the SEC adds ACC -- 133193Hokie 09/20/2021 6:44PM

The Carolina Duke basketball games are very important to ESPN. Look at how -- Stech 09/20/2021 7:03PM

Basketball is high on the SEC radar. I have been saying for -- 133193Hokie 09/20/2021 9:36PM

The SEC just doesn't play like the other conferences, they want PASSION & -- Stech 09/21/2021 06:48AM

Duke doesn't get to decide. UNC's decisions will dictate where Duke can go. -- tarheelblue 09/21/2021 12:35PM

Agree. I also like NBC for NFL. Last night Sunday Night Football was -- 91HokieBob 09/20/2021 08:16AM

Yep and it has ruined college football ** -- HokieAl 09/19/2021 5:38PM

It's not like VT helped the ACC today. FSU & CU could say the same. ** -- jesuisvtguy 09/18/2021 11:47PM

When all is said and done, there is going to be two leagues -- VaTechHokiesACC 09/18/2021 10:10PM

Oh - i agree. And I suspect that VT will be in that group. The problem is -- 133193Hokie 09/19/2021 07:18AM

Who in their right mind really thinks we have a choice? -- Hokie Fiji 09/18/2021 8:09PM

Exactly, we would take an SEC invite, or even B1G, IMO. ** -- Truthahn 09/19/2021 10:52AM

Up until about 1-2 years ago I was 100% sure that all VT needed -- 133193Hokie 09/19/2021 07:29AM

Finebaum had a guest on after Texas OU left saying VT needs to call SEC? -- Stech 09/19/2021 07:04AM

This "arrogance" argument.... I'm not really getting it -- Hokie Fiji 09/20/2021 9:48PM

If an invitation arrives from the B1G or SEC we should go. But there isn't -- Maroon Baboon 09/18/2021 4:27PM

One school couldn't, but if 4 left at the same time, might be different.** -- Atlee Hokie 09/20/2021 08:49AM

I think it would take more than that, but yeah. ** -- Maroon Baboon 09/20/2021 09:18AM

I wonder what the VT decision point is that we just can't compete -- 91HokieBob 09/18/2021 9:09PM

It's not anytime soon considering the big fundraising committment last year ** -- Synaesthesia 09/19/2021 10:30AM

Which IiRC only goes to 2027. Not that far off in big picture. And we've -- 91HokieBob 09/19/2021 10:36AM

Ultimately it's really only fringe programs that consider dropping down -- Synaesthesia 09/19/2021 11:13AM

This post is exactly why I wonder. So much has changed just in this year -- 91HokieBob 09/19/2021 11:22AM

Football is the only sport that such a sinkhole of money -- Synaesthesia 09/19/2021 11:39AM

Thing is...Illinois in the example is in the B1G getting an annual $50M -- 91HokieBob 09/19/2021 11:46AM

They're not getting better relative to their peers though -- Synaesthesia 09/19/2021 2:11PM

I don't know what the inflection point is, but the inflection people -- saret 09/18/2021 9:21PM

I hope to meet you one day soon….. -- hokie4ever 09/19/2021 09:00AM

Nah ! Just an old curmudgeon who spends too much time on the -- saret 09/19/2021 09:49AM

They are the -- 133193Hokie 09/19/2021 08:53AM

You're right. BINGO ! ** -- saret 09/19/2021 09:45AM

VT made its bed and now it has to lay in it. ** -- VTHokie2000 09/18/2021 8:12PM

Swing a deal with WVU :-) -- 133193Hokie 09/18/2021 6:59PM

Football is the only sport that such a sinkhole of money

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