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I suppose the difference in opinion is the difference


between the historical model and the wishful model.

The Big 12 in their reactionary push to expand, is searching for schools to expand their footprint and to add value to their conference. The previous expansions were all based upon the same things as well. No conference has signed on to any expansion which would reduce the payout for current members even if it would reduce the cost of travel and therefor increase the profit margins.

There is nothing to base the other expansion on rather than wishful thinking. I believe that the conferences view everything as a competition and they want to be the best conference. The decision makers have not been motivated to drive towards parity between the conferences and I do not see the motivation to begin to do it now. What drives the money bus in this situation is dominance rather than parity.

The only way that parity and cooperation is going to work is if everyone gets the same slice of the pie. Is there any evidence that the SEC and the BIG are going to come to the table and happily split the money equally with the other players in the market? Secondary to that does anyone have any evidence that the ACC and the PAC are willing to sign on to second class membership receiving a lesser share of the financial pie? I have a hard time seeing this from either an athletics standpoint or a academics standpoint.

If someone could direct me to some evidence otherwise, I would be more than open to entertain the idea but I just do not see it and there is no evidence to support it.

(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

Posted: 08/15/2016 at 10:38AM


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  This map makes it pretty dang clear how things should shake out for the P4. -- chuckd4vt 08/14/2016 10:34PM
  Close, but here's how I see it happening -- I85Hokie 08/16/2016 12:45PM
  Could see that. ** -- chuckd4vt 08/16/2016 8:59PM
  I think some of the traditional perspectives will be different this time -- East Cobb Hokie 08/15/2016 11:58AM
  How about we give WVU to the Big-10 in exchange for PSU? ** -- EDGEMAN 08/15/2016 10:29AM
  Monty Hall, high as a kite, wouldn't make that deal. ** -- Late 80s Hokie 08/15/2016 1:03PM
  Why should the ACC add WVU? ** -- marcbvtgm 08/15/2016 08:16AM
  They won't. They've already passed on them once. -- GoobyPls 08/15/2016 08:27AM
  How many times were VT, BC, Cuse, Pitt, and UofL passed up by ACC? ** -- chuckd4vt 08/15/2016 08:32AM
  How many new viewers does WVU bring to the table? -- WhoopACC Hokie 08/15/2016 09:46AM
  If WVU and VT ever get back to where they were, then the rvalry aspect -- corvt2000 08/15/2016 4:29PM
  Is that really the metric to use anymore? -- Freddyburg Hokie 08/15/2016 2:04PM
  The metric used is not up to me. I do think that is -- WhoopACC Hokie 08/15/2016 4:25PM
  The current model is 10-15 yrs old. Already changed. -- chuckd4vt 08/15/2016 7:01PM
  What model is currently used then? Link? ** -- WhoopACC Hokie 08/15/2016 7:48PM
  The one that focuses primarily on TV markets. -- chuckd4vt 08/16/2016 2:23PM
  Exactly. They'll put butts in seats too. Big deal for bowls. Pitt and VT? -- chuckd4vt 08/15/2016 2:33PM
  Compared to who? -- Tailgate Guru 08/15/2016 10:14AM
  I was not asking for them to be compared to anyone. -- WhoopACC Hokie 08/15/2016 11:05AM
  My sense is that viewers, not markets, is becoming increasingly relevant -- Tailgate Guru 08/15/2016 11:43AM
  With a network coming the ACC needs both. -- HOO86 08/15/2016 12:21PM
  Markets and ticket sales -- Tailgate Guru 08/15/2016 12:30PM
  I know many WVU grads personally here in Charlotte. ** -- chuckd4vt 08/15/2016 2:35PM
  There are a ton here in Richmond. -- HOO86 08/15/2016 8:07PM
  Pitt holds its own around Pittsburgh. -- HOO86 08/15/2016 1:30PM
  You can believe the NY Times; I'll believe what I've actually observed -- Tailgate Guru 08/15/2016 1:54PM
  Not even a poll -- mrcaniac 08/16/2016 12:44PM
  You may very be correct, but at that point, would it be -- WhoopACC Hokie 08/15/2016 12:04PM
  Re: How many new viewers does WVU bring to the table? -- 2hhoop3 08/15/2016 10:10AM
  I suppose the difference in opinion is the difference -- WhoopACC Hokie 08/15/2016 10:38AM
  Re: I suppose the difference in opinion is the difference -- 2hhoop3 08/15/2016 11:12AM
  I understand what it is you are saying. -- WhoopACC Hokie 08/15/2016 11:26AM
  Re: I understand what it is you are saying. -- 2hhoop3 08/15/2016 11:47AM
  Fair enough, just curious if there was evidence of -- WhoopACC Hokie 08/15/2016 12:08PM
  I think the difference is that demographics are trending down for WV -- GoobyPls 08/15/2016 08:39AM
  Of course. There's little reason for ACC to want/need WVU -- marcbvtgm 08/15/2016 09:44AM
  Difficult to cooperate when the league's media deals have different owners ** -- daveinop 08/15/2016 08:02AM
  The U Presidents care most about academic profile, networks want new money. -- Stech 08/15/2016 07:37AM
  That is why for convenience and academics, the ACC takes -- hokie4ever 08/15/2016 10:46AM
  ACC's already come off of that high horse. -- chuckd4vt 08/15/2016 08:35AM
  I seem to recall UCONN's biggest opponent was BC not -- corvt2000 08/15/2016 1:18PM
  BC was the one against. -- HOO86 08/15/2016 1:41PM
  Should secure UConn now because they are available. -- HOO86 08/15/2016 10:54AM
  The biggest question re: WVU is money. If they are profitable, the SEC -- daveinop 08/15/2016 08:53AM
  Better question is who would provide more money than WVU? -- chuckd4vt 08/15/2016 10:36AM
  Just for clarity Chuck, how has the addition of -- WhoopACC Hokie 08/15/2016 11:18AM
  Think it's households for sure. Large State Us. -- chuckd4vt 08/15/2016 11:31AM
  They could do worse, but conferences aren't going to add teams that don't -- daveinop 08/15/2016 11:10AM
  UConn? I don't think so. ** -- Tailgate Guru 08/15/2016 11:45AM
  Re: This map makes it pretty dang clear how things should shake out for the P4. -- 33laszlo99 08/15/2016 12:15AM
  Can't see why the SEC would go for that deal. ** -- Maroon Baboon 08/14/2016 9:42PM
  I see more wishful thinking than clarity. Baylor is the odd man out -- seekoHoG 08/14/2016 10:23PM
  The only problem is that destroys rivalries that these schools won't let go -- Ricky LaBlue 08/14/2016 8:43PM
  Lol -- SoCloseHokie 08/14/2016 8:25PM
  Not what OUSooner said. -- chuckd4vt 08/14/2016 10:34PM
  Re: Not what OUSooner said. -- SoCloseHokie 08/15/2016 06:47AM

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