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I agree that the ACC just needs to keep on floundering because

I'm not sure it is really living at this point. Plus, the Big Ten and Pac-12 could always vote to count the already scheduled Notre Dame games as "ACC Alliance" games and there is nothing the ACC can do to stop it. Also, I agree with TerryD's post down below ("I think that the "Alliance" will carve out ND games").

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Posted: 01/28/2022 at 1:43PM

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Big Ten considering getting rid of divisions and ... -- Old Line Hokie 01/26/2022 4:10PM

So 10 of 12 games a year will be filled -- Sunsetunderground 01/27/2022 12:28PM

Given that Notre Dame is an independent in football, I wouldn't assume -- VTHokie2000 01/27/2022 8:52PM

Oh no, they are ASK to leave -- Mercury 01/27/2022 10:25PM

I thought that was the case which could make discussions interesting -- VTHokie2000 01/27/2022 10:33PM

I think the Alliance crossed that bridge some time ago. ND isn't -- daveinop 01/28/2022 1:37PM

I agree that the ACC just needs to keep on floundering because -- VTHokie2000 01/28/2022 1:43PM

Especially when ND was making side deals as part of the initial working grp -- Mercury 01/28/2022 10:54AM

No problem at all cuz that is what it is ** -- TerryD 01/28/2022 12:14PM

Given there are a whole bunch of wheeling and dealings going on at the same -- VTHokie2000 01/28/2022 11:02AM

If the alliance works out no problems -- Mercury 01/27/2022 12:51PM

I think that the "Alliance" will carve out ND games -- TerryD 01/28/2022 12:16PM

That would be suicide for the ACC ** -- VT ChemE 1986 01/28/2022 3:16PM

How do fans know that ACC isn't already committing suicide by remaining -- VTHokie2000 01/28/2022 3:21PM

No way ACC agrees to this -- Sunsetunderground 01/28/2022 2:55PM

Notre Dame might have the support of the ACC schools with SEC rivalries -- VTHokie2000 01/28/2022 3:01PM

When they formed, I would have agreed. But at this point, I'm doubting it -- daveinop 01/28/2022 1:49PM

There might be a need when factoring in the ACC's requirement to play -- VTHokie2000 01/28/2022 2:16PM

You may be right but if ACC wants more $, it has to give up something -- daveinop 01/29/2022 12:11PM

The Big Ten may not really care about the potential additional money -- VTHokie2000 01/29/2022 12:24PM

ND might as well formally sign a scheduling agreement with the Alliance -- daveinop 01/29/2022 2:18PM

Notre Dame may not want to give up its scheduling freedom -- VTHokie2000 01/29/2022 7:23PM

It would be give and take, and no impact on NBC -- daveinop 01/30/2022 1:39PM

Right now Notre Dame can schedule 7 or 8 "home games" every season -- VTHokie2000 01/31/2022 12:28AM

Exactly -- Sunsetunderground 01/27/2022 1:17PM

The hardest part is having to wait for all of this to play out -- HokieAl 01/27/2022 12:26PM

This is big news, they were the ones that stopped it before. -- Stech 01/26/2022 9:41PM

Do you think having swofford gone help??? -- Mercury 01/28/2022 11:01AM

Every ACC team gets 2 annual rivals.... -- Old Line Hokie 01/26/2022 10:19PM

No-these "protected games" are largely unnecessary -- Vippie1 01/28/2022 12:39PM

But every schools has at least 1 or 2 rivalries that are important -- VTHokie2000 01/28/2022 3:37PM

Dont jump to schedules first it will be one more time of expansion... -- Mercury 01/28/2022 11:05AM

Can the ACC cleanly divide up into 4 pods with 14 teams and still -- VTHokie2000 01/28/2022 11:15AM

Pods and divisions can and should be idea of the past. -- Maroon Baboon 01/28/2022 3:40PM

I would agree with that assessment. If the bylaws are changed -- VTHokie2000 01/28/2022 3:49PM

That's why they are changing the rules before they decide on a CFP format -- daveinop 01/30/2022 08:34AM

That may happen, but don't be shocked if SCOTUS eventually rules -- VTHokie2000 01/30/2022 12:11PM

That's a pretty big leap. all of this would follow restructuring the -- daveinop 01/30/2022 2:20PM

It's not that big of an assumption when you look at the past rulings by -- VTHokie2000 01/31/2022 12:40AM

I think your strawman is a leap, not what SCOTUS would do to it. -- daveinop 01/31/2022 08:35AM

If the next version of the CFP is 5 automatic bids for the P5 conferences -- VTHokie2000 02/01/2022 12:30PM

That's what you said before -- daveinop 02/01/2022 4:37PM

Who says all 10 FBS conferences and Notre Dame will agree -- VTHokie2000 02/01/2022 4:36PM

I don't think they will; I think all bets are off; and I think -- daveinop 02/01/2022 4:59PM

But that is essentially what the P5 are doing in their proposal; -- VTHokie2000 02/01/2022 5:00PM

What P5 proposal? ** -- daveinop 02/01/2022 5:03PM

Re: What P5 proposal? -- daveinop 02/01/2022 5:12PM

As I noted below there isn't 100% support among the P5s for the -- VTHokie2000 02/01/2022 5:38PM

Here's an article that talks about the potential 12-team proposal -- VTHokie2000 02/01/2022 5:09PM

I revised my post above to include the six proposals in the -- daveinop 02/01/2022 5:17PM

My understanding is D1 will lay out it's new governance docs by August -- daveinop 02/01/2022 5:42PM

And what I have been suggesting is that if a new deal can't be done -- VTHokie2000 02/01/2022 5:35PM

Those complexities are what the Transformation Committee is dealing with -- daveinop 02/01/2022 6:37PM

When have I ever suggested that the any revisions to the CFP will be done -- VTHokie2000 02/02/2022 01:05AM

Why? Because you are wrapped around the axle of playoff models -- daveinop 02/03/2022 08:15AM

Yeah. And it all goes to the 800 pound elephant (or gorilla) in the room. -- Maroon Baboon 01/28/2022 4:08PM

Personally I always thought 9 was the magic number. -- VTHokie2000 01/28/2022 4:15PM

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Army IMHO should be in the B1G, we need our Nations Academies where they’re -- Stech 01/28/2022 07:11AM

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USMA, USNA and USAFA are national universities. -- Maroon Baboon 01/28/2022 3:59PM

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Army will never be in ACC -- MrFantastic! 01/28/2022 05:13AM

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UNC needs 3. But might as well protect 3 for everyone to keep. Full list. -- Maroon Baboon 01/26/2022 11:40PM

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Screw protected games! I don't care if we miss UVA one year or two... -- EDGEMAN 01/27/2022 04:12AM

The schools may feel differently than you about whether rivalries -- VTHokie2000 01/27/2022 8:58PM

Uva will never not be on dock ** -- MrFantastic! 01/27/2022 11:14AM

I want both. More conference games. -- Maroon Baboon 01/27/2022 07:35AM

I want out of having Fredo as our "protected" crossover game. -- EDGEMAN 01/27/2022 10:45AM

BC's three protected games should be Miami, Syracuse and Pitt. ** -- Maroon Baboon 01/27/2022 1:32PM

Should is the operative word here. How much trust do you have in the ACC -- VTHokie2000 01/27/2022 9:04PM

You are forgetting it's the ACC so VT's 2 rivals would be UVA and Fredo ;-) -- VTHokie2000 01/26/2022 10:30PM

This is huge the pieces are forming -- Mercury 01/26/2022 10:06PM

B1G talking about scheduling ACC & PAC12. -- HOO86 01/27/2022 5:15PM

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Or...Rose stays the same; ACC plays best remaining in the Orange -- daveinop 01/31/2022 11:08AM

Move OSU-Mich to earlier in season and then they play in championship game. ** -- Lakeridgehokie 01/26/2022 7:55PM

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Makes too much sense -- Millpoint 01/26/2022 6:33PM

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Most definitely ** -- EDGEMAN 01/26/2022 6:59PM

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